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#60859: "First player advantage: alternative start option?"
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Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
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9. Meu 2022 13:42 •
PiratJack • An diorroerien a soñj dezho ez eo ur mennozh a-feson ha fellout a ra dezho stagañ ganti:
11. Meu 2022 19:14 • Hello,
That sounds like a great idea!
Unfortunately, the rule on BGA is to stay as close as possible as the base game. I'll share the suggestion with the publisher and see if they're open to that adaptation.
I'll add the statistics on the 1st player as well, to see if it makes a huge difference or not.
Regards,
PiratJack
That sounds like a great idea!
Unfortunately, the rule on BGA is to stay as close as possible as the base game. I'll share the suggestion with the publisher and see if they're open to that adaptation.
I'll add the statistics on the 1st player as well, to see if it makes a huge difference or not.
Regards,
PiratJack
PiratJack • An diorroerien a soñj dezho ez eo ur mennozh a-feson ha fellout a ra dezho stagañ ganti:
13. Meu 2022 15:01 • Hello,
I have added a statistic to know who won. It should help identify whether there's a balance problem or not. We'll see in a few days / weeks!
Regards,
PiratJack
I have added a statistic to know who won. It should help identify whether there's a balance problem or not. We'll see in a few days / weeks!
Regards,
PiratJack
lioness65 • An diorroerien a soñj dezho ez eo ur mennozh a-feson ha fellout a ra dezho stagañ ganti:
9. Gwe 2024 11:23 • Anything new about this? Please check my post boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=189502
PiratJack • An diorroerien a soñj dezho ez eo ur mennozh a-feson ha fellout a ra dezho stagañ ganti:
10. Gwe 2024 20:51 • Hello,
Sorry, I haven't been very active on this. I reached out again to the publisher, to see if they would allow me to do this. I now have a more direct contact with them, but I can't guarantee any delay on the answer (my contact may even have left the company, it's been a year since I talked with him last time).
Regards,
PiratJack
Sorry, I haven't been very active on this. I reached out again to the publisher, to see if they would allow me to do this. I now have a more direct contact with them, but I can't guarantee any delay on the answer (my contact may even have left the company, it's been a year since I talked with him last time).
Regards,
PiratJack
lioness65 • An diorroerien a soñj dezho ez eo ur mennozh a-feson ha fellout a ra dezho stagañ ganti:
11. Gwe 2024 2:51 • Thank you for checking, PiratJack!
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