Danevell • Board Game Arena

12. Mae 2018 15:03 • Prince_LEE • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Dont think this field is needed...

6. Mezh 2018 3:51 • wentley • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

The check for bad language is often excessive, even without mistaking foreign words (and sometimes people's quite innocent names). For example, if I make a comment about myself, saying e.g. I just did something stupid, it will suggest this is an insult or aggressive!

One easy improvement would be to change the message to something like: 'If you believe this player has used offensive or aggressive language, you can report him to a moderator" (add link). Rather than assuming that's what has happened.

And maybe try to improve and make less simplistic how it picks up insults etc in the first place.

30. Mezh 2018 9:39 • e1q3z9c7 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I often do some stupid move and says "oh stupid" after, I think I have right to insult myself

2. Gou 2018 13:06 • Liallan • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I didn't even know this was happening. And I'm pretty sure I've insulted myself before. :-)

I could see where this would get annoying, and someone just posted on the forums about it too. The thing I don't really like is having the system "spying" on my chat. It seems it should be up to the other player(s) to decide if it bothers them and report you.

7. Gou 2018 22:30 • Lena the Great • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Btw, the word "Slut" in swedish means "The end" in english...
Likewise the word "Bra" in swedish means "Good" in english.

Have also got a warning...It's hard to be swedish.

26. Eos 2018 10:54 • Mrs Dress A H • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I just tried "I just did something stupid" on "Chat with everyone", and it didn't detect.

2. Gou 2019 10:09 • diamant • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

L'équipe BGA ne devrait pas se croiser les BRAS (arms in english) sur cette question.

7. Gwe 2019 9:01 • Adolf889 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Dear moderators.

I expose that:
1.- On September 4, 2019 at 19:11, I received a warning without penalty from BGA, because according to its privacy policy, my username was not appropriate.

2.- On September 4, 2019 at 19:49, I sent an email to contact@boardgamearena.com where I ask what is the reason for my sanction.

Attached mail sent
"Apparently my username is inappropriate for BGA. what's wrong with my name? it's just my name and my birthdate: adolf889 "

Without finding a bigger problem, and since there was an error in the attached link, en.boardgamearena.com/doc/moderationpolicyProject-Id-Version; I waited for at least one explanatory answer.

3.- On September 4, 2019, hours later, I sent an email to the platform, denouncing what had happened in a chat of a 7wonders game, in which a user had insulted me, insinuating that, according to my username , I was a "hitler fan", describing myself as "authentic Nazi" and asking the rest of the players to support him in my expulsion from the game.

4.- After 48 hours, I have not received any response from the moderators, nor to my question about the inappropriateness of my username, or to the verbal aggression suffered during the chat (notified on the platform, to which I currently don't have access).

5.- On September 7, 2019, at 2:44 a.m., I received an email, in which I was notified that I had been permanently banned. Attached message:
"Didn't change their username within the allotted time despite being online."

For all the above, I request that:

1.- The platform interface is reviewed and the moderation policy visualization is possible.
2.- the reasons for sanction are reviewed. Obviously Adolf / Adolfo / Adolphe is a common name in many Latin-speaking countries, and I have never had any problem in each of the countries I have visited by direct political association. It seems to me something completely absurd, inconvenient, uncomfortable and humiliating.
3.- My expulsion case will be duly reviewed.

I await an answer.

7. Gwe 2019 9:06 • Adolf889 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I have been banned because of my username!!!!
I find it humiliating that in 2019, there is still a direct partnership between my name and the second world war

22. Meu 2020 9:07 • sapri-capri • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

The common German phrase "L u s t auf..." just means "Do you want to play..." There is absolutely no need to do anything about it. I think users should be able to decide whether they feel insulted or not without the system interfering!

29. Meu 2020 5:46 • Spiralise • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Upvote in particular on Wentley's suggestion.

The current message is quite aggressive in itself. It could be adjusted so that people can take action if they find something that has been said offensive.
And the only times I have seen this happen, has been when people have made a comment about their own play/mistakes, so very unlikely to be offensive to another.

21. Ebr 2020 0:50 • ystwyth • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Said "oh damn" in a chat with a friend when I did something stupid and was tagged as being offensive. Either make it so it doesn't detect between friends, or better yet have an option in the settings that allows you to pick your level of swearing. No swearing if it really bothers you, moderate for words like stupid or damn, and anything goes if you just don't care.

Instead of having angry automated messages, why not ******* words for the people who choose not to see these words (choice in settings).

29. Ebr 2020 3:19 • crapi • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

What happened to Adolf889 (noted by him above on 09/07/2019) is unfortunate and I hope the admins look into it, though it is not really what this bug report is about.

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I agree with several people here that chat between friends should not be checked for this. If someone is offended they can first remove the person from their friend list.

I especially like the suggestion by ystwyth (immediately before me) to create options for levels of filtering, and to replace potentially offending words with **** etc, or even something that can be clicked to reveal what was said. Also, then it wouldn't matter if the person is a friend on BGA or not.

It is still useful to have a function within the chat window to immediately report a problem (it seems much harder to report later), but it should be smaller and to the side or somehow less obnoxious than it is now (when not wanted).

14. Mae 2020 23:56 • BryceS • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Saying goodnight to my girlfriend on chat and signing off with three kisses - xxx - is apparently offensive...

20. Mae 2020 17:03 • Flavien21CDC • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Same in french.
Words « retard » (meaning late or behind) and « Fanny » (meaning loosing with having scored zero points) are cencured here.

24. Mae 2020 13:37 • BSF Clairebear • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I've noticed this when I play games with my Mum - once we're finished, we sign off with "see you later xxx" or similar - we both receive those very patronising reprimands about aggressive messages. It is needless and detracts from the game experience.

2. Mezh 2020 14:30 • augustin F • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I was playing Rallyman: GT and I asked the other players if I should make a "Grosse Attaque" (I don't know the english for). Then I told myself that I was already too far behind to take extra risks (I had to catch up with the others, not go into the wall), so I told them: Non, j'ai déjà trop de retard comme ça" (No, I'm late enough as it is).
But the website didn't accept this message.
So I agree with Flavien21CDC.

8. Mezh 2020 14:22 • Fabien9000 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Indeed the french "retard" is a perfectly normal word.
I'm also in favor of setting to loose a bit the checks with you play with friends (strict checks on by default)

Please note, BGA, that I understand the need for moderation in the chat :)

12. Mezh 2020 18:47 • compte obelète • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Yeah, about the ban guy posting here is a bit too much brutal for that, Yeah the site need to respect the French rules, but he was in Spain (still don't worry about that name).

19. Mezh 2020 0:34 • lea108 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I also think it is a problem that BGA doesn't perform language detection and use language specific lists of "bad" words.

/Fellow Swedish player that tends to talk about game end conditions and get messages flagged for using our word for "end" which is on the black list.

19. Mezh 2020 5:05 • compte obelète • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

@boardgamearena.com/player?id=86585656, yeah, that cool.

19. Mezh 2020 12:00 • irakun • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I agree with everything people said before. My two cents:

1) Language moderation should not be enforced between friends. I don't need (neither I want) you to censor what I say to my old good friends and if a new friend I made here is not being nice to me, it takes a minute to unfriend them.
I think this simple change would make a big difference, since probably most of us talk much more with friends than with unknown people.

2) I thing @wentley made a great suggestion.

3) Only English words seems to be triggering the bad language message, which is not optimal. I can't say some words in English but I am allowed to say whatever I want in Spanish? how is that logical?

19. Mezh 2020 12:50 • irakun • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Also what happened to Adolf889 is disgusting... I want to believe that you wouldn't do that... or that at least you fixed it after somehow...

20. Mezh 2020 7:16 • Jesm71 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Shit is a daily used word in Holland - like damn, so you say it not in a bed way

22. Mezh 2020 0:35 • ma_cieng • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

"ide spac" in Polish is "I go to sleep". For some reason system found it insulting.

24. Mezh 2020 9:56 • compte obelète • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

@jesm71, oh, so if someone is come from here, (there is another name?) I shouldn't report.

12. Her 2020 4:20 • vttale • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

How many votes does it take to even get an acknowledgement that this is an issue that detracts from the game play experience for many people? Please either acknowledge that you are working on a way to do this or make some statement about why you won't and close this. Sitting here for YEARS as "Bug has not been reproduced by developers yet" is kind of an amazing way to put it into limbo.

Allowing a simple opt-in setting of "Disable language filter between friends" would be a pretty straightforward way of addressing this.

22. Her 2020 18:14 • enhan • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I can just repeat 22.03.2020 - 10:07 • sapri-capri •

and extend:
"Lust haben" means "do you feel like".
"Hast Du Lust auf ein Spiel" just means : "Do you feel like a game".

There is nothing offensive of whatsoever kind.

Just remove the language-filter or make it language-specific. Thanks.
Even Google-translate gets this right.

2. Du 2020 19:48 • eoc • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

After more than two years have passedn, I would also respectfully request an official statement from BGA in this matter. Otherwise, it's easy to see why international players would feel ignored. Please try to find some time to look at this soon.

11. Du 2020 10:38 • Zero_1627 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

yeah, same with me - especially as it not only looks for offensive words in English, but also for similar words... I'd say a player will know when (s)he feels offended and can report it all right, there's no need for big warnings about anything that even looks like not-entirely-proper language.

19. Du 2020 0:12 • Pocc • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

How has there been no action on this in 2 years!?

I pay BGA money and expect to not be treated like a child. If there is a problem with language, then users should report as they feel necessary.

22. Du 2020 20:29 • Nisterius • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Even terms used in the rules of the game get dinged: Any question about the "Fool" in french tarot...

7. Ker 2020 5:04 • acoustic kitty • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Agreeing with everything that's been said. I understand the need to maintain a respectful community but the current language warning system is borderline useless.

1. English bias in how the warnings are triggered. Many innocent non-English words activate it.
2. Foul language isn't an issue when playing with friends only. The warnings detract from our enjoyment.
3. Allow a global toggle to turn the warnings off everywhere, even in public games (but sure, keep the warnings enabled by default)
4. Dial down the aggressiveness of the words that trigger the warning. Some pretty benign words that trigger it were highlighted here: boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=12839&start=15

18. Ker 2020 10:01 • kristjansig1983 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I support this wholeheartedly. This should be fixed somehow.

25. Ker 2020 20:35 • Luma5 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Yes you cannot yep even it's just another word for yes...

15. Gen 2021 23:08 • vagabond • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I tried a different approach: boardgamearena.com/bug?id=31963

25. Gen 2021 13:08 • brainofj83 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

It is getting really annoying to be automatically flagged every time I (or my friends with whom I play) uses the Swedish word "slut", which would mean "the end" in English. In some discussions this happens frequently, like;
- When does the game end?
- The game ends when the draw deck is depleted.
- Will we have time to play out all the card before the end?
During this discussing we get flagged all the time. I really appreciate the concern for the discussions to stay civil, but as this is a platform with people from all over the world, I find it really irritating that this feature is automated. A manual report-function would be much, much better.

14. Cʼhw 2021 17:11 • Da1m0s • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

"The developers have not been able to reproduce the bug" is that message a bug in itself? how can this not be reproduced very easy? And even easier to understand?

17. Cʼhw 2021 12:33 • KongKing123 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

It says "Bug has not been reproduced by developers yet", which is the status every bug report starts with.

It basically means it has been ignored for almost 3 years.

22. Cʼhw 2021 5:16 • nccc • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I think this is why they're hiring more people.
Imagine running this website with ONLY 4 people.

6. Meu 2021 14:22 • KKuchen • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

same for the German word "Lust"

29. Meu 2021 21:54 • Yobust • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Early today I join a french tarot game, I went to page to say hello to oponents but when trying to go back to page where's the table to play, i couldn't go back to page it was taking so long to log me into page . When I manége to be to leave from messages page, I was on page with a link said "go to game" so I clicked but on top of my page it asked me if I was connected
Sorry pardon my french ( swearing) But what stupid question of course am connected or I couldn't see that daft message asking if am connected lol. But after all I got from others players expelled , no blaming anyone to expelled me as it took so long fir me to show up. But to get bad reputation from BGA, where it was not my fault if was late. It's BGA system slow to many bugs . But BGA always say it work perfectly but it doesn't . So unfair to get reputation in my opinion

29. Meu 2021 21:57 • Yobust • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Too about insult where this world going too if u can't sweat your own self lol

29. Meu 2021 21:57 • Yobust • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Weat lol meant wear

22. Mae 2021 0:46 • KuWizard • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

In BANG! there's a character "Willy the Kid". It is English but still considered an offensive word :)

2. Mezh 2021 15:13 • compte obelète • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

After like 3 years from the start of this report, still nobody actually found it interesting, I wonder why this waiting...

It's like, any random suggestions that make things bad, sure.
And a serious problem, nope

22. Mezh 2021 8:44 • anmi2 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

it may be a common spam-filter setting for only english.
in this case "slut" has a complete different meaning in english and swedish
* english: spam word ; meaning = bitch
* swedish: normal word : meaning = final

so in result, the website spam word settings can be updated in that case, that when in the chat there are ONLY friends inside, the spam check should be a possibility to disable by a user-checkbox

27. Mezh 2021 11:19 • Sara U • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

It’s really hard to avoid the word ”slut” if you chat about playing and games in swedish.

29. Gou 2021 21:23 • anmhi • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

The offensive language notification on "damn" in particular is completely unnecessary. In the English speaking world it's a world that very few people would be offended by. In addition, it's a word that would be quite challenging to construct an insult from.

30. Gou 2021 22:42 • numbnuts • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I used the phrase 'tit 4 tat' during a game of Spades.It was a comment on a reciprocal play. I realize the word 'tit' set off a red flag. Hope I didn't get downgraded for that. Thanks

10. Eos 2021 0:55 • sedjtroll • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

It's mostly ignorable, but the warning IS annoying -- maybe it could be something a player can toggle off in their personal settings?

12. Eos 2021 17:56 • EthanStrauss • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I got dinged for saying "... snatch victory...". This is just wrong! Words can have more than one meaning.

18. Gwe 2021 22:12 • Kit by the Sea • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

There is a great need to be able to block completely, not just give a red avoid thumb. Ive been criticised for a disability and it’s unacceptable.

27. Gwe 2021 9:37 • Karaboudjan • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Nothing happened, so I got used to write "L.ust" instead of "Lust". Strange that BGA does not seem to be interested in this issue at all...

9. Her 2021 19:51 • Tybus913 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I find it disappointing that this is still unadressed 3 years later.

10. Her 2021 3:58 • blockmonoid • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

So for several weeks now, I notice that "offensive" words are no longer flagged with this "insulting language" message, at least when speaking with friends. When did this change get implemented? I applaud it. It was most annoying when talking between friends, when you've established a level of informality everyone is comfortable with. And definitely if you're using another language with those friends.

20. Her 2021 2:05 • nopeasaurus • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

@blockmonoid maybe it's a partial roll-out? I got the pop-up warning just a few days ago when playing with friends.

22. Her 2021 0:12 • Romain672 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

How about a 'don't show me again', and those who get a ban immediately got that option removed?

14. Du 2021 18:32 • FaeWeaver • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I feel like one warning per game would be sufficient.

15. Ker 2021 12:05 • sesselfussel • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

In my opinion this language check is not necessary. When someone who is not a friend etc is insulting and does show an inappropriate attitude and language there are other ways to address this matter. There is no need in a game to check for words that are normal in other languages than English!

4. Mae 2022 16:32 • KongKing123 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Mentioned: boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=25325

7. Mae 2022 12:39 • Dyauk • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Yes

21. Mezh 2022 18:21 • mamacg52963 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I do think a "clean" communication environment is important in order to maintain a respectable and comfortable atmosphere for all players, and this requires that certain standards be in place.

11. Gou 2022 12:55 • KongKing123 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

New topic with BGA response that sadly dodges the issue: boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=26165

14. Gou 2022 3:52 • Freches_Feechen_XX • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I agree with almost everything that previous speakers have said! It's really degrading what BGA dares to do here! It's just for the 🤮 that nothing has happened for apparently 4 years and the problem is just hanging in the balance!!! I brought at least 5 to 10 players here - but I won't do that for now! Apparently it's worth nothing for BGA if new players are recruited - and then this nonsense with the word filtering and the espionage - you should actually report that to the data protection officers!!!

14. Gou 2022 4:01 • Freches_Feechen_XX • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

The language filter also warns against common German words! Example - as already mentioned: Lust! It's really just amazing here, and can really take the fun out of the game at times! Maybe BGA wants this and would like to stop chatting while playing...

29. Eos 2022 17:48 • PiHalbe • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Another German Word that is quite common in standard card games is "A s s", which is just the Ace as in "Herz A s s".

I get that it's profanity in English, but it's really freaking me out when drastic measures are announced because I plainly tried to talk about the game.

de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ass_(Spielkarte)

3. Du 2022 17:14 • deeoh • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

The language filter is also easily "defeated", as it only checks exact matches and not substrings. For example, "dumb" may trigger the filter, but "_dumb" does not.

17. Du 2022 12:30 • bagofnails • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Just as an amusding aside, I was talking about the early days of the sport basketball, and I mentioned that it was a long time before they realised to put a hole in the bottom of the basket. This was flagged as rude/insult, but none of us could work out what the offending word/term could possible be. (It might have been 'a hole')

12. Gen 2023 12:27 • jakeqz • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Residents of Scunthorpe have suffered this fundamentally flawed solution for decades.

It was known to be problematic well before BGA came into existence. But in fairness, other sites have historically not dealt with the issue much better. E.g. Pokerstars insists that all chat should be in English and asterisks-out whatever it considers to be an expletive.

The approach taken by Lichess seems to be the right way forward: allow all chat, but alongside each message have a 'report' icon (which on desktop only appears on `hover`); those sanctioned for abusive chat are still allowed to play, but not chat, for a certain period of time.

3. Cʼhw 2023 23:58 • Shiny Discosphere • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

we're all adults, if someone is being attacked, they can be reported or allow a user to block messages from that person in the game or forever.

26. Cʼhw 2023 16:54 • Meredith25 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I 100 percent support this report. Just a few days ago, I was talking with someone, asking if I could play an inappropriate word in a game. After choosing not to, they asked what the word was so I told them. Before I could send it I got multiple messages saying I'd be banned if I got reported.

I don't think people should be banned for using words strategically in game and answering someone else in chat. Plus, as mentioned earlier different words mean different things in different languages.

26. Meu 2023 19:30 • dhnyny • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

This entire policing of language is badly implemented and completely unnecessary. It should end. And Adolf should be reinstated and should receive an apology.

3. Ebr 2023 23:56 • TwoTottaBonne • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Adding the option for an 'adult' mode on games, like the other options at game creation, would allow people to keep games 'rated PG' or whatever when that's what they prefer, and also allow me to talk trash to my friends while we horse around playing boardgames. I mean, the language at a physical table is not clean in my experience, and it doesn't bother any of the people I play with.

14. Ebr 2023 16:33 • robear88 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

when playing with people new or old I think it should be okay to ask are you sure you know how to play, as in case i recently asked if someone was a master in hanabi because to me they were playing strangely, i was warned about this behavior but sometimes we ask questions to see if there is a misunderstanding get better clarification maybe we don't understand what they are doing. I think lot gamers will agree that our intent is to bring people in to board gaming apart that is teaching new people or sometimes questioning when people are playing erratically, i hope i don't get more trouble since in policy says not complain but i think the filter you have for inappropriate language may be set to harshly as in my case i asked a question to get clarification from a player to see where the break down was in our game i thought maybe someone else is playing under there account like child or relative an maybe didn't understand the game. I think some freedom is needed to question a bit the player to gauge there ability so people can either help teach because even masters make mistakes and we shouldn't get penalized for pointing it out. However i am all up for learning myself i could have been clearer in communicating this in chat during the game instead of saying r u really a master to, you are playing very odd to me can you explain so i can understand, my wording was poor, though was never trying to insult. Also just for BGA to know at first i wasn't going to accept the warning i was able to click games an put myself in a waiting list to find a game even though the moderation popped up everywhere else i don't know if that is a glitch since i dont think you want people playing until they accept the message.

15. Mezh 2023 18:01 • Friend of Jamis • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I don't have a problem with the feature, but it seems like it wouldn't be too difficult to allow people to opt out of it at the account level or on a per-game basis.

21. Mezh 2023 17:17 • betsys99 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I was chatting with a friend, and I said I was scr*wing up in the game - which is slangy but not rude- and after the popup, my entire message was erased.

5. Gou 2023 13:17 • Stuff by Bez • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

As deeoh said, I could type the word "f***" and it's flagged but if I use "F***ing" then it's not, because of the extra characters ('ing') at the end.

BGA seems to be able to detect foreign languages, so surely if it notices you are not speaking in English, then it should use a different list of trigger words.

5. Gou 2023 23:04 • Sav_96 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I am able to type fu***ing, but not f*ck without the message. it seems some words not native to English also come up as flagged. I also like to talk sh*t with my friends, who all also curse in our private chats with each other. We shouldn't be flagged when we can figure the right place and time to curse. Maybe allow it in messages with friends or have a setting that turns the profanity filter off in the settings.

4. Eos 2023 16:44 • Starwarrior1128 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I just wish they added an option to turn off the aggressive language warning message in chat.

4. Gwe 2023 20:39 • Sjarmtrollet • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Could it be an option. To turn off all monitoring.

26. Her 2023 5:37 • jakeqz007 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I typed "noob" in the context of "helping out a newbie", but only when I changed it to "newbie" did the warning go away.

The current system is not fit for purpose, particularly in the context of a site that allows chat in multiple languages.

> Could it be an option. To turn off all monitoring.

Absolutely not. Chat records must be kept, so that if there is a complaint against a player being abusive in the chat, it can be fully investigated. However, those chat records must remain private until any such complaint and investigation is opened, and not be available to anyone not involved in the investigation about that specific complaint. Chat records must not be available to admins on an ad-hoc basis. Due process must be followed.

> I just wish they added an option to turn off the aggressive language warning message in chat.

The warning I saw said it would be flagged up to moderators. I don't think flagging messages to moderators is appropriate for the reasons I've already given, including that privacy should be respected.

If the warning was turned off, you wouldn't know if someone unbeknownst to you was reading your chat.

26. Her 2023 5:46 • jakeqz007 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

PS. The current implemtation is, if I understand correctly, in breach of EU GDPR regulation.

26. Her 2023 11:10 • 0rsk1 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I18N is hard but yeah, I feel you swedish bro. Had same on Battle.net with "Kykene" (being able of something), I learned it is slang for jewish person...

Until we get AIs intelligent enough we have to have this .. very broken version of "quality control"

1. Du 2023 14:54 • bugggg • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

This was triggered for me today when I attempted to say "I did a dumb thing earlier and meant to produce or something else in the pre-role action, but I hit the wrong button on my phone..."

I suspect that "did a dumb thing" or "hit" caused the popup, but I'm not sure.

Yeah, this is extremely overzealous/oversensitive/incorrect. The users should have the ability to have a setting where asterisk masking can be enabled instead of warning people for things that don't make sense. It could even be the default setting as long as it can be turned off!

I'm surprised that after ~3 years, this ticket is STILL open and says "bug has not not been reproduced by developers yet" considering the many clear examples of where it has happened.

12. Du 2023 14:49 • muddypawprints • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

What I don't understand is that the message talks about "is this offensive or insulting". I can offend or insult someone without using "curse words".

You look like a horse's bottom.

See, no cursing. So the system in place is badly implemented. The filter should be off. (if children have accounts, they should have parental permission as is.)

There should be a blanket statement when you sign up for an account explaining that this is an international site and language differences may be present. I have seen this on other sites, and once I see that, it's my choice whether or not to proceed with being on the site.

The solution is that there should be a report option on chats somewhere universal. (drop down or under the burger menu in games) This way, if an offensive or insulting action takes place, the chat is saved and a moderator can review it. Don't only give me the option when a "bad" word is used, because, as I have shown above, it doesn't take a curse word for those actions to take place.

19. Du 2023 12:54 • Hordil • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Came here because I wanted to report the german phrase ("Lust" auf etwas haben) - when you want to play something. No thats not sexual or anything its just asking if someone wants to play with you. I dont need a 6 paragraph long warning that there could be bad language when it's clearly NOT.

You discourage people from communicating on the website by this!

30. Du 2023 10:19 • Nebresh • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

The german term "Hast du Lust auf ein Spiel" - Do you want to play a game" is rather inoffensive.

17. Ker 2023 7:11 • clientsi • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

There really needs to be a setting for this!

5. Gen 2024 20:59 • Sjarmtrollet • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

This filter is anglo-centric

26. Gen 2024 8:29 • cigma • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Duplicate: boardgamearena.com/bug?id=59476

16. Cʼhw 2024 11:29 • Cortopok • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Problème d'affichage des cartes personnages et œuvres d'art. Je ne les voyais olus, ne pouvant plus savoir le descriptif des cartes.
Cela est arrivé lors de la dernière manche.

22. Cʼhw 2024 6:04 • therightwaye • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

"There really needs to be a setting for this!"

FOR SERIOUS. Don't like cursing, maybe you should have filters enabled and the rest of us can live our ducking lives like we want.

22. Cʼhw 2024 6:18 • therightwaye • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I notice that this is years old and no one at BGA seems to care.

4. Ebr 2024 12:42 • Phoxtrot • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

It does cause too many problems with other languages.
Whenever I say 'Je suis en r e t a r d pour ...." I get a warning.

10. Ebr 2024 16:20 • Hordil • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I am often annoyed by this.

Common german phrase: "Hast du Lust ein Spiel zu spielen?"
"Would you like to play a game?"

And it picks up "Lust" as something worthy of censoring and warning people about aggressive behaviour blabla, people missunderstand the message and think you are a creep.

Very nice BGA, very nice.

11. Ebr 2024 17:16 • FromLardToHard • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Trash Talk and Table Talking IS a very effective strategy in any game. "Yo Mama" stuff is part of the game, grow a thicker skin.

18. Mae 2024 8:24 • zellaaa • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

wow 6 years had passed and they still haven't looked into it :/

5. Mezh 2024 10:16 • King_Taravangian • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I agree with acoustic kitty:

Innocent words in other languages are getting flagged in English: like "C u m" in Romanian, which means "How". HOW can I ask a question, without using "how"?

And, yes, I don't need moderation with my friends. We should be able to turn this on/ off.

12. Gou 2024 9:45 • DukeOfEarl • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Yes, this should really be looked into. The ticket has been open for 6 fricking years!

Just to add to the list of examples, in Luxembourgish, you say "Et a s s däin Tuer" to say "It *is* your turn."

So the word "is" is bad...

27. Eos 2024 13:18 • Sausway • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I would like chat moderation to be turned off between friends. Or maybe have an option where people can choose to toggle it off between friends?
I was just playing a game with my mom and my sister (only us 3) and I said, "Dumb Game" jokingly because I love the game and lost. BGA asked me if "I was sure the risk of banning was worth the message" and then asked my family in chat if they would like to report me.
My sister has had some people be really horrible to her in Hanobi without using any noticeably bad words, so it doesn't seem like this feature is really helping in the way it's supposed to.

22. Gwe 2024 23:51 • espbean • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I would also like an option to turn this off between friends. It's anxiety inducing and annoying, and like others have said, triggers for common phrases in other languages. I understand wanting to moderate the general chat and conversation among non-friends, but this filter is a pain when trying to message with a friend.

20. Her 2024 10:32 • LHCper • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I made a similar request recently in the following one: boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=182174

When playing the friends, and chatting in Swedish, it is kind of frustrating to get this warning quite a lot. I mean "end" (but in Swedish) is quite common to use in a chat.

So I think turning of moderation in chats with friends is a good idea, and is quite easy to implement.<

I also think moderation in games chat really could be turned of. If someone is misbehaving, use report system instead. Possibly keep it for "General messages" as that maybe can be assumed to use English.

(Note, there are words in English that are bad words in other languages, so it is almost impossible to do an automatic bad-word notifier.)

20. Her 2024 10:43 • LHCper • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

"Lust" works in Swedish, as in "Har du lust att spela ett parti till?"
As in "Do you like to play another game as well?"

And if you and "then this game ends" it will be "när detta partiet tar slut".

The threads give quite a lot of other examples, from German, French, Romanian, Luxemburgian, etc.

If BGA wants to be an international site, then they should remove this word filtering.

22. Ker 2024 17:11 • NullAhnung • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I find it annoying to be constantly warned just because I use a sentence that is completely inoffensive in German, like "Do you feel like playing another game" (Hast du Lust auf ein weiteres Spiel), there is nothing wrong with this sentence.

By the way, what is the use of the possibility to make posts here, when none of the BGA responsibles seems to take care of it?

#9903: "Annoying check for bad language"

What is this report about?

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