#87310: "Burgle Bros - Loitering check"
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Petra a zo c'hoarvezet ? Trugarez evit dibab amañ dindan
Gwiriit mar-plij ma n'eus ket dija un danevell evit an hevelep dodenn
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit ar gemennadenn fazi a zo war ho skramm, ma zo unan.
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• Displegit deomp, mar-plij, ar pezh ho poa c'hoant d'ober, ar pezh ho peus graet hag ar pezh a zo c'hoarvezet 'benn ar fin
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. M'ho peus ul lennad skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v112
• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v112
• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v112
• Which part of the rules was not respected by the BGA adaptation
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• Ha posupl eo gwelet torridigezh ar reolenn e replay ar bartienn ? Ma 'z eo ya, da be niverenn taol ?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v112
• Peseurt taol ho peus c'hoant c'hoari ?
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• Petra emaoc'h o klask ober evit delankañ an ober c'hoari-mañ ?
• What happened when you try to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v112
• Da be bazenn ar bartienn eo en em gavet ar gudenn (petra oa testenn kemenn ar c'hoari) ?
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• What happened when you try to do a game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v112
• Mar-plij, diskrivit kudenn an diskwel. M'ho peus ul lennad skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v112
• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. M'ho peus ul lennad skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v112
• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
Currently in Burgle Bros, the rules state you're not allowed to move "back and forth" in order to avoid drawing an event. However, it has been stated that this would be too difficult to code, and would result in false positives, and so (understandably), the devs focused on more productive things.
As a programmer myself, I spent some time analyzing the problem, as I knew I could tackle this, and I have the time to (unlike your devs :) ) and believe I have a draft solution which is a viable option as it:
1) doesn't result in false positives.
2) Simple coding logic changes to implement - nothing major, no redesign needed - you have all the info already, it's just a matter of gathering it up and using it properly.
3) flexible - so we can focus on the "simple"/obvious checks first .. and consider expanding to trickier ones later (if we want).
The logic is simple:
1) capture the current board "state" (everything, including tiles, hidden tiles, walls, player/guard positions, tools/loot positions, hack tokens .. alarms .. etc.) store it as a simple string (1 character per "item", ie Safe = "S", Walkway = "W", etc.)
2) boolean flag to indicate dice were rolled (ie safe, keypad, etc.) This provides a marker, as we won't compare board states beyond a dice roll. (think 1 move into a keypad, and failing the roll)
3) Compare latest board state with al previous ones up to a die roll event.
4) if any match, reject the move as "loitering" ..
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v112
Roll-istor an danevelloù bog
boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30165
In the linked .zip is a flowchart showing the logic, and it should be reasonable easy to fit into, and after some additionally games. and review, I think it should be reasonable robust.
Ouzhpennañ un dra bennak d'an danevell-mañ
- Niverenn taol all / Niverenn ar fiñv
- Ha renket eo bet ar gudenn gant an douchenn F5 ?
- Ha c'hoarvezet eo ar gudenn meur a wech ? Bewech ? Cheñch-dicheñch ?
- M'ho peus ul lennad skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.