#70334: ""Fast version"?"
Petra a zo c'hoarvezet ? Trugarez evit dibab amañ dindan
Petra a zo c'hoarvezet ? Trugarez evit dibab amañ dindan
Gwiriit mar-plij ma n'eus ket dija un danevell evit an hevelep dodenn
M'oc'h a-du, VOTIT evit an danevell-mañ. An danevelloù gant ar muiañ a vouezhioù a vo studiet DA GENTAÑ !
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Deskrivadur dre ar munud
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit ar gemennadenn fazi a zo war ho skramm, ma zo unan.
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
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• Displegit deomp, mar-plij, ar pezh ho poa c'hoant d'ober, ar pezh ho peus graet hag ar pezh a zo c'hoarvezet 'benn ar fin
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Petra oa diskouezet war ar skramm pa 'z oc'h chomet stanket (Skramm goullo ? Ul lodenn eus etrefas ar c'hoari ? Kemennadenn fazi ?)
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Pesseurt reolenn n'eo ket doujet gant azasadenn ar c'hoari-mañ ?
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
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• Ha posupl eo gwelet torridigezh ar reolenn e replay ar bartienn ? Ma 'z eo ya, da be niverenn taol ?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Peseurt taol ho peus c'hoant c'hoari ?
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
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• Petra emaoc'h o klask ober evit delankañ an ober c'hoari-mañ ?
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• What happened when you try to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Da be bazenn ar bartienn eo en em gavet ar gudenn (petra oa testenn kemenn ar c'hoari) ?
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
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• What happened when you try to do a game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Mar-plij, diskrivit kudenn an diskwel. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
I know this is probably an heresy, dont throw rotten eggs to me... let's say i am just brainstorming...
Would it be conceivable to have a "fast start version"?
What I usually feel is that the first 2/3 of the game are spent aimlessly placing the first walls.
There could be an option to randomly put the first, don't know..., 25% of the walls, avoiding to leave boxes with already 3 walls.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
Roll-istor an danevelloù bog
1) faster
2) every beginning is different, giving a (false?) sense of variety
3) I guess not terribly complicated to implement
Cons:
1) not the classic game
2) not sure how to avoid possible bias toward one or the other players
I'm sure the 2/3 of the game seems aimless to the non-initiated (to whom I more or less belong too, so I know rather well the feeling).
1) When discussing the details of the pie rule with the top DnB players on Little Golem (where arguably the strongest living DnB players meet), it has been implied that after the first approx. 5 moves of a 5x5 game (60 moves) the game is often already +/- oriented toward one of the player. In fact who plays first in the 5x5 game IS already winning (this is why I have implemented, as far as I know for the first time in the history of this game, a pie rule).
But this is simply a matter of not being very familiar with the strategy of the game. I have a very similar feeling while playing Chess (in which I am less than simply non-initiated!). Would you suggest a Chess implementation in which the first _n_ moves are random?
2) The second con you quote (how to avoid favouring either player with random moves) is a BIG con: in practice those 15 random moves (out of 60) would decide the game instead of the players! This would transform the game from a random-free, total information game into an almost purely chance game.
These are the major reasons why I deeply disagree with this (ingenuous!) proposal; I'm sure over time I could think of others!
thx for the explanation and ur time
W.
www.docdroid.net/2Ch8voZ/dots-boxes-5x5-pdf#page=3
Ouzhpennañ un dra bennak d'an danevell-mañ
- Niverenn taol all / Niverenn ar fiñv
- Ha renket eo bet ar gudenn gant an douchenn F5 ?
- Ha c'hoarvezet eo ar gudenn meur a wech ? Bewech ? Cheñch-dicheñch ?
- If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
