#67415: "Number 5 never occurring while breaking safe"
Petra a zo c'hoarvezet ? Trugarez evit dibab amañ dindan
Petra a zo c'hoarvezet ? Trugarez evit dibab amañ dindan
Gwiriit mar-plij ma n'eus ket dija un danevell evit an hevelep dodenn
M'oc'h a-du, VOTIT evit an danevell-mañ. An danevelloù gant ar muiañ a vouezhioù a vo studiet DA GENTAÑ !
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Deskrivadur dre ar munud
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit ar gemennadenn fazi a zo war ho skramm, ma zo unan.
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
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• Displegit deomp, mar-plij, ar pezh ho poa c'hoant d'ober, ar pezh ho peus graet hag ar pezh a zo c'hoarvezet 'benn ar fin
The dice ability to make a 5.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Safari v15.4
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Safari v15.4
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• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Safari v15.4
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• Petra oa diskouezet war ar skramm pa 'z oc'h chomet stanket (Skramm goullo ? Ul lodenn eus etrefas ar c'hoari ? Kemennadenn fazi ?)
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Safari v15.4
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• Pesseurt reolenn n'eo ket doujet gant azasadenn ar c'hoari-mañ ?
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
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• Ha posupl eo gwelet torridigezh ar reolenn e replay ar bartienn ? Ma 'z eo ya, da be niverenn taol ?
The dice ability to make a 5.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Safari v15.4
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• Peseurt taol ho peus c'hoant c'hoari ?
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
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• Petra emaoc'h o klask ober evit delankañ an ober c'hoari-mañ ?
The dice ability to make a 5.
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• What happened when you try to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Safari v15.4
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• Da be bazenn ar bartienn eo en em gavet ar gudenn (petra oa testenn kemenn ar c'hoari) ?
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
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• What happened when you try to do a game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
The dice ability to make a 5.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Safari v15.4
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• Mar-plij, diskrivit kudenn an diskwel. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Safari v15.4
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Safari v15.4
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• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
The number 5 never occurs on the table while trying to break the level 1 safe. We are approaching 200 dice throws, and still no 5.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Safari v15.4
Roll-istor an danevelloù bog
FYI, in case this helps… I was the advanced Peterman character. So I was adding and rolling safe dice from the floor below in-between turns where Zilch was rolling too. I would usually get an “unstable interface” toast notification (Chrome browser on Mac) on my first mouse click and then my second click would perform my special action to roll the safe dice.
Last night, while observing skriss' game, there were two issues noticed:
1) There were several instances of duplicate sets being rolled on 4 die. The sets looked something like this (pattern is correct but the numbers aren't exact):
2,1,6,4
2,1,6,4
Next turn:
4,5,2,1
4,5,2,1
6,2,4,2
6,2,4,2
This was the most egregious example that I remember but there were several other ones showing an issue. The odds of getting three consecutive pairs of matches like that on 4 die are astronomically low (it's (1/6)^12, or roughly 1 in 500,000,000)
From my experience developing other applications, this is probably caused by a new RNG object being created for every set of rolls. Doing this in quick succession creates the RNG objects with the same seed, causing them to generate the same set of numbers. This can be fixed by creating a single instance of the RNG that is used for the entire turn or a single instance used for the entire game.
2) Players would intermittently receive an error when rolling to open the safe (was on a Skype call with the players who discussed it there). I suspect that the correct number was actually being "rolled" but it generated the error when rolled. This was observed after using the Peterman's drill ability to open a safe on a different floor. It was only seen when attempting to get the last number of the safe but I don't remember if the other numbers were rolled before or after the first use of the Peterman's ability.
It's possible that this is the cause of issue 1 and that rolling the needed number caused the game to "fall back" to the previous set of rolls when the error was encountered.
Hopefully this helps. We've really enjoyed the game so far.
As I said, an error message occurred quite often, I believe it was when the die should have been 5 and the safe open, the bug probably comes from a bug happening when the safe opens.
On this bug:
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=42896
you said 'should be ok', so you doesn't seem to be sure and doesn't seem to have tested that.
Could there be that donuts are generated on that tile on that floor, the game doesn't like it, so don't allow that to happen and roll something else.
It appears that the two players rolled 215 times for the safe on floor 1. The results were 41 ones, 43 twos, 43 threes, 44 fours, 0 fives, and 44 sixes.
I think you have a bug and I think you owe everyone here an apology.
Here, the problem isn't the random, but something else.
But yeah that something is here: boardgamearena.com/bug?id=68285
2) And did you test with the advanced Peterman character? This is another common symptom.
Those are the 2 common reported symptoms. Please do your due diligence and test them. Instability bugs are always difficult to resolve, so I understand if you end up not being successful. But you have not provided sufficient evidence to call this 'notabug' at this point.
and for the record, i am a volunteer developer that doing this on my free time because i like the game and the spirit of BGA, insulting me or my work (or at least being rude) doesn't help at all ^^
and this is true for most of the games developed here
I think flakattack510 said it all.
Not able to roll a 1 -- my math professor partner in the game says we are up to 1 in 9 million chance.
Peterman's Drill being used along with "normal" attempts.
Getting lots and lots of "error processing database request" messages -- about as often as the chance of rolling a 1 on at least 1 of 4-5 dice.
Same bug, and Advanced Peterman is in the game. Although it occurs for either player, not just Advanced Peterman. We got no 1s, and frequently got the database error: "Unexpected error: Error while processing Database request (reference: GS9 25/07 22:52:36)". Presumably that error happened whenever we would have actually rolled a 1.
This was on the 3rd floor. No problems on floor 1 or floor 2. Floor 3 was when the Advanced Peterman started to Drill, and the error started when we were down to needing only 1 number.
Ouzhpennañ un dra bennak d'an danevell-mañ
- Niverenn taol all / Niverenn ar fiñv
- Ha renket eo bet ar gudenn gant an douchenn F5 ?
- Ha c'hoarvezet eo ar gudenn meur a wech ? Bewech ? Cheñch-dicheñch ?
- If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
