#62353: "Wasn't given an option NOT to take action after placing caballeros"
Petra a zo c'hoarvezet ? Trugarez evit dibab amañ dindan
Petra a zo c'hoarvezet ? Trugarez evit dibab amañ dindan
Gwiriit mar-plij ma n'eus ket dija un danevell evit an hevelep dodenn
M'oc'h a-du, VOTIT evit an danevell-mañ. An danevelloù gant ar muiañ a vouezhioù a vo studiet DA GENTAÑ !
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Deskrivadur dre ar munud
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit ar gemennadenn fazi a zo war ho skramm, ma zo unan.
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
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• Displegit deomp, mar-plij, ar pezh ho poa c'hoant d'ober, ar pezh ho peus graet hag ar pezh a zo c'hoarvezet 'benn ar fin
Yes. Not sure on move number. Round 7.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
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• Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
Yes. Not sure on move number. Round 7.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Petra oa diskouezet war ar skramm pa 'z oc'h chomet stanket (Skramm goullo ? Ul lodenn eus etrefas ar c'hoari ? Kemennadenn fazi ?)
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Pesseurt reolenn n'eo ket doujet gant azasadenn ar c'hoari-mañ ?
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
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• Ha posupl eo gwelet torridigezh ar reolenn e replay ar bartienn ? Ma 'z eo ya, da be niverenn taol ?
Yes. Not sure on move number. Round 7.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Peseurt taol ho peus c'hoant c'hoari ?
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
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• Petra emaoc'h o klask ober evit delankañ an ober c'hoari-mañ ?
Yes. Not sure on move number. Round 7.
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• What happened when you try to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Da be bazenn ar bartienn eo en em gavet ar gudenn (petra oa testenn kemenn ar c'hoari) ?
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
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• What happened when you try to do a game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
Yes. Not sure on move number. Round 7.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Mar-plij, diskrivit kudenn an diskwel. M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
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• Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
Yes. Not sure on move number. Round 7.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
I chose a special scoring action with the intention NOT to use it (to deprive other players). I placed my caballeros first, but then the scoring happened automatically without giving me the chance to pass.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
Roll-istor an danevelloù bog
All regions with the most Caballeros are scored immediately" Action card.
Table #257938244 (playing in firefox 99.0, 64-bits)
Turn 146 - I chose the action to score the region with most caballeros in it, because everybody had some in them but me, and the playets comming after me would benefit the most, so i wanted to block them - i chose the card, placed my caballero's, and then the action was performed without an option not to choose it...
It happened earlier in the game (I think) when opponent pyonfey mad a similar ridiculous choice to score somthing that benefitted not him but two other players (me not being one of them)
It was 10 to 20 points my opponents got handed where they shouldn't have - a real shame because overall the gameplay feels very much like the real deal
Thanks for looking into it
It was not my first time.
This is a critical failure altering the game completely.
It's visible only if you play with the phone in panoramic mode.
Hope it helps
This is a serious UX bug with a huge effect on scoring. The game *does* give you the option to not perform the card action, but this choice is not given to the user in isolation. It is lumped in with another choice to confirm placement of caballeros, and it is also "hidden" behind a non-blue button.
Question 1: "You may choose between placing caballeros and action [Use action] [Place caballeros]."
Question 2: (screenshotted above): "You may place 0 / 3 caballeros [Confirm placement of caballeros] [Cancel] [Confirm placement of caballeros and skip action]."
The BGA/Web conventions for button colors are that (a) standard buttons should always be blue and do only one thing, and (b) only cancel/undo buttons should be red or white.
Please make it a separate step in the flow to prompt the user to either use or not use the special action. This decision does not belong in the place caballeros phase.
Suggested Q1: "You may choose between placing caballeros and action [Use action] [Place caballeros]"
Suggested Q2: "You may place 0 / 3 caballeros [Confirm placement] [Cancel]"
Suggeseted Q3: "You may perform the special action [Use action] [Do not use action]"
Alternatively, a quick code hack could be to reorder and change the copy on the buttons to read "[Confirm placement and perform action][Confirm placement and skip action][Cancel]" (...blue then blue then white buttons). This kind of change would remove confusion for me, at least.
I have been enjoying this game more the last couple of months. And while the buttons are now a little wordy, I haven't once gotten messed up by the logic flow like I did before. Thanks!
Ouzhpennañ un dra bennak d'an danevell-mañ
- Niverenn taol all / Niverenn ar fiñv
- Ha renket eo bet ar gudenn gant an douchenn F5 ?
- Ha c'hoarvezet eo ar gudenn meur a wech ? Bewech ? Cheñch-dicheñch ?
- M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
