#45612: "Momentum didn't apply until someone moves"
Petra a zo c'hoarvezet ? Trugarez evit dibab amañ dindan
Petra a zo c'hoarvezet ? Trugarez evit dibab amañ dindan
Gwiriit mar-plij ma n'eus ket dija un danevell evit an hevelep dodenn
M'oc'h a-du, VOTIT evit an danevell-mañ. An danevelloù gant ar muiañ a vouezhioù a vo studiet DA GENTAÑ !
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Deskrivadur dre ar munud
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit ar gemennadenn fazi a zo war ho skramm, ma zo unan.
Momentum
At this time, all race cars automatically move forward to fill any vacated
segments within the space they currently occupy. This means at the
beginning of each turn, you will either be in the front segment of a
space, or in a segment directly behind another race car. -
• Displegit deomp, mar-plij, ar pezh ho poa c'hoant d'ober, ar pezh ho peus graet hag ar pezh a zo c'hoarvezet 'benn ar fin
Every end phase before#70.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v91
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
Momentum
At this time, all race cars automatically move forward to fill any vacated
segments within the space they currently occupy. This means at the
beginning of each turn, you will either be in the front segment of a
space, or in a segment directly behind another race car. -
• Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
Every end phase before#70.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v91
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• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
Momentum
At this time, all race cars automatically move forward to fill any vacated
segments within the space they currently occupy. This means at the
beginning of each turn, you will either be in the front segment of a
space, or in a segment directly behind another race car. • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v91
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• Petra oa diskouezet war ar skramm pa 'z oc'h chomet stanket (Skramm goullo ? Ul lodenn eus etrefas ar c'hoari ? Kemennadenn fazi ?)
Momentum
At this time, all race cars automatically move forward to fill any vacated
segments within the space they currently occupy. This means at the
beginning of each turn, you will either be in the front segment of a
space, or in a segment directly behind another race car. • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v91
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• Pesseurt reolenn n'eo ket doujet gant azasadenn ar c'hoari-mañ ?
Momentum
At this time, all race cars automatically move forward to fill any vacated
segments within the space they currently occupy. This means at the
beginning of each turn, you will either be in the front segment of a
space, or in a segment directly behind another race car. -
• Ha posupl eo gwelet torridigezh ar reolenn e replay ar bartienn ? Ma 'z eo ya, da be niverenn taol ?
Every end phase before#70.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v91
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• Peseurt taol ho peus c'hoant c'hoari ?
Momentum
At this time, all race cars automatically move forward to fill any vacated
segments within the space they currently occupy. This means at the
beginning of each turn, you will either be in the front segment of a
space, or in a segment directly behind another race car. -
• Petra emaoc'h o klask ober evit delankañ an ober c'hoari-mañ ?
Every end phase before#70.
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• What happened when you try to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v91
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• Da be bazenn ar bartienn eo en em gavet ar gudenn (petra oa testenn kemenn ar c'hoari) ?
Momentum
At this time, all race cars automatically move forward to fill any vacated
segments within the space they currently occupy. This means at the
beginning of each turn, you will either be in the front segment of a
space, or in a segment directly behind another race car. -
• What happened when you try to do a game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
Every end phase before#70.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v91
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• Mar-plij, diskrivit kudenn an diskwel. M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
Momentum
At this time, all race cars automatically move forward to fill any vacated
segments within the space they currently occupy. This means at the
beginning of each turn, you will either be in the front segment of a
space, or in a segment directly behind another race car. • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v91
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
Momentum
At this time, all race cars automatically move forward to fill any vacated
segments within the space they currently occupy. This means at the
beginning of each turn, you will either be in the front segment of a
space, or in a segment directly behind another race car. -
• Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
Every end phase before#70.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v91
-
• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
Momentum
At this time, all race cars automatically move forward to fill any vacated
segments within the space they currently occupy. This means at the
beginning of each turn, you will either be in the front segment of a
space, or in a segment directly behind another race car. • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v91
Roll-istor an danevelloù bog
Move #70
According to the rule, all cars should move forward automatically until reach another car or at the top of one space. At the beginning of this game, we spent some turns shopping without moving and the leader car, which belongs to the red player, didn't move to cross the start line automatically. However, another player moved trigger the momentum and move the red car. This happened in move#70.
I'm not sure if BGA will let me properly replay your game until you've finished it (at least, I've never figure out how), but can I confirm: is this purely about the VERY FIRST move in Tucson? (ie did a player sit on the start line and not move until turn 70?)
If so, I will triple check with game designer, but that behaviour is based on the rules which are specified for that map:
"The checkered flag that marks the start/finish line cuts through two spaces (A and B). These spaces should still be treated as normal spaces with the checkered flag serving like any other dashed segment line.However, the player starting the game on “P1: $10” should treat that segment as a distinct space until they move out of it. This means, for example, if they play one white cube on their first turn they would move forward 1 segment to the front of space A. Likewise, player 1 should ignore momentum until they have moved out of space A."
So, momentum does not apply to that first space on Tucson until you have moved.
Does that sound like it matches the issue that you had?
Keep playing your game. But let me know when it's done and I'll be able to study the replay then.
If I understand correctly, the bug may be in the OTHER direction... if the first player moved over the line with momentum after ANOTHER player overtook them, then I don't think that is meant to happen. There's simply meant to be no momentum in that first space until you have moved - but I have sent David Short a request for an absolute clarification.
Thanks for reporting it! Please let me know when your game is over.
Thank you for your support.
We've finished the game and please check it.
I've heard back from David Short *and* reviewed the replay - thanks for that.
I can confirm that the P1 segment in Tucson is a special case and there is no momentum out of that space UNTIL A PLAYER HAS MOVED. That's not a global rule about momentum - it's just a special rule for that track.
Which means that I *can* confirm a bug from your replay, but it's not the one you were expecting! When IzWzl moved into the black space, Flareworks should NOT have momentumed forwards like they did: it seems that my implementation incorrectly has momentum kicking in for that space once *anyone* has moved rather than once the player has moved.
Otherwise, the holding up of players on the straights on Tucson is... a strategy. It didn't ultimately work for Flareworks here (congratulations on your win!)
Thanks for the report!
Apologies for the incredibly lengthy delay but I can confirm that the actual bug here (if you are the starting car in Tucson, Momentum should NOT apply to you until you have moved) has been fixed.
Ouzhpennañ un dra bennak d'an danevell-mañ
- Niverenn taol all / Niverenn ar fiñv
- Ha renket eo bet ar gudenn gant an douchenn F5 ?
- Ha c'hoarvezet eo ar gudenn meur a wech ? Bewech ? Cheñch-dicheñch ?
- M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
