#40617: "poor position of map target for cubes"
Petra a zo c'hoarvezet ? Trugarez evit dibab amañ dindan
Petra a zo c'hoarvezet ? Trugarez evit dibab amañ dindan
Gwiriit mar-plij ma n'eus ket dija un danevell evit an hevelep dodenn
M'oc'h a-du, VOTIT evit an danevell-mañ. An danevelloù gant ar muiañ a vouezhioù a vo studiet DA GENTAÑ !
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Deskrivadur dre ar munud
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit ar gemennadenn fazi a zo war ho skramm, ma zo unan.
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. -
• Displegit deomp, mar-plij, ar pezh ho poa c'hoant d'ober, ar pezh ho peus graet hag ar pezh a zo c'hoarvezet 'benn ar fin
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. -
• Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Petra oa diskouezet war ar skramm pa 'z oc'h chomet stanket (Skramm goullo ? Ul lodenn eus etrefas ar c'hoari ? Kemennadenn fazi ?)
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Pesseurt reolenn n'eo ket doujet gant azasadenn ar c'hoari-mañ ?
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. -
• Ha posupl eo gwelet torridigezh ar reolenn e replay ar bartienn ? Ma 'z eo ya, da be niverenn taol ?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Peseurt taol ho peus c'hoant c'hoari ?
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. -
• Petra emaoc'h o klask ober evit delankañ an ober c'hoari-mañ ?
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• What happened when you try to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Da be bazenn ar bartienn eo en em gavet ar gudenn (petra oa testenn kemenn ar c'hoari) ?
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. -
• What happened when you try to do a game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Mar-plij, diskrivit kudenn an diskwel. M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. -
• Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
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• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
the map target for placing cubes is the center of each segment. these points are also used for drawing the path taken by the car (a nice touch). This gives false impression of progress at times when two adjacent segments are of different length. This also causes some traced paths to be "S-shaped".
Getting into a segment really means you are at the _end_ of that segment, and the cube should be shown there. Please adjust map targets for each segment to be just shy of the ending line. • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Mozilla v5
Roll-istor an danevelloù bog
I understand your point fully, but the reason I've gone with aiming for the centre of segments and not the front of them comes down to this being a simulation of a boardgame and not a simulation of a car race.
That is: if we were developing an online car race simulation, we'd DEFINITELY have the cars and cubes up against the front lines as you say. But we're instead simulating the experience of playing the boardgame (albeit with some nifty helps like snail trails, which are mainly to help people cope with the the turn-based nature of online play). When people play the boardgame, there is a tendency (obviously this is a generalisation) to put pieces roughly in the middle of the spaces rather than to move them to the front. It's nice, clean, easy to track and looks good and balanced.
That's what we're aiming for here.
I understand that it occasionally turns up some odd results with the snail trails, which for me is the strongest argument for "that's a bit suboptimal", but I don't consider that to be an actual problem: again, the snail trails are to assist players in getting a quick glance at who has moved where since their last turn, and in that regard they work fine: they're not intended to be a simulation of exactly how the car moved.
If I was hearing that the "cubes and cars in the middle of squares" approach was causing actual confusion, I'd give changing some serious consideration, but I haven't had that reported as being a problem. The abstraction of having cars and cubes appear in the middle of squares (including some curvy snail trails as a result) seems to not be causing any uncertainty or mistakes, so the decision between having cars and cubes at the front of or middle of segments is essentially a stylistic one.
I've checked all of this past David Short (the game designer) and he (like me) also fully understands the argument you're making, but is also happy to continue with the current approach.
Thanks again! I'll let you know if thoughts change.
Ouzhpennañ un dra bennak d'an danevell-mañ
- Niverenn taol all / Niverenn ar fiñv
- Ha renket eo bet ar gudenn gant an douchenn F5 ?
- Ha c'hoarvezet eo ar gudenn meur a wech ? Bewech ? Cheñch-dicheñch ?
- M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
