#32886: "Eliminate hidden trackable information (at least when playing async)"
Petra a zo c'hoarvezet ? Trugarez evit dibab amañ dindan
Petra a zo c'hoarvezet ? Trugarez evit dibab amañ dindan
Gwiriit mar-plij ma n'eus ket dija un danevell evit an hevelep dodenn
M'oc'h a-du, VOTIT evit an danevell-mañ. An danevelloù gant ar muiañ a vouezhioù a vo studiet DA GENTAÑ !
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Deskrivadur dre ar munud
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit ar gemennadenn fazi a zo war ho skramm, ma zo unan.
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
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• Displegit deomp, mar-plij, ar pezh ho poa c'hoant d'ober, ar pezh ho peus graet hag ar pezh a zo c'hoarvezet 'benn ar fin
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v90
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v90
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• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v90
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• Petra oa diskouezet war ar skramm pa 'z oc'h chomet stanket (Skramm goullo ? Ul lodenn eus etrefas ar c'hoari ? Kemennadenn fazi ?)
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v90
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• Pesseurt reolenn n'eo ket doujet gant azasadenn ar c'hoari-mañ ?
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
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• Ha posupl eo gwelet torridigezh ar reolenn e replay ar bartienn ? Ma 'z eo ya, da be niverenn taol ?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v90
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• Peseurt taol ho peus c'hoant c'hoari ?
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
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• Petra emaoc'h o klask ober evit delankañ an ober c'hoari-mañ ?
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• What happened when you try to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v90
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• Da be bazenn ar bartienn eo en em gavet ar gudenn (petra oa testenn kemenn ar c'hoari) ?
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
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• What happened when you try to do a game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v90
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• Mar-plij, diskrivit kudenn an diskwel. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v90
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v90
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• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
In person (and possibly live), tracking what pieces other players have played is mostly possible. But async, it's pretty impossible. Yes, I can reconstruct it from the log, or take personal notes every turn. Better, IMO, is if all players had access to all information -- how many of each component each player has remaining.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v90
Roll-istor an danevelloù bog
Because in real life in it is difficult to remember how many pieces people have left unless you have a REALLY good memory (specially in 3-4 players games). Assisting players with such information, would, IMHO, ruin part of the spirit of the game. Of course, you can still browse through the logs and see that, but it is difficult, much more like in the live game. Perhaps as an option of people want it, but it will definitively not be by default.
Perhaps, showing the number of TOTAL pieces placed (or remaining) could be done as default, I have to think about this because as it does not require memory but just to count pieces on the booard, it is much more the spirit of the game.
There is a substantial cadre of gamers who play any game where all hidden information is strictly trackable (as it is here) with open hands, and that group also has significant overlap with the type of gamers who like these old school abstract placement euros. To have the option to play this way in the digital world would be great.
I'm not sure I get the "spirit of the game" argument. There's nothing else in the game to indicate that memory or bluffing etc is an intended mechanism or element of the competition in the game, nor do a player's holdings ever change except by removal (it's not like a hidden-money game where flows are going both in and out).
Thanks for considering the option.
With 2 players, it is a cut-throat battle where every move you make matters, and I don't even think that there is an argument for why that information shouldn't be displayed that's worth making. Why not just make it easier for both players when you are able to survey the complete state of the game by counting anyway?
With real competitive games against strangers where your ELO ranking is at stake though, this really just doesn’t make any sense.
Benj
Benj
Benj
Ouzhpennañ un dra bennak d'an danevell-mañ
- Niverenn taol all / Niverenn ar fiñv
- Ha renket eo bet ar gudenn gant an douchenn F5 ?
- Ha c'hoarvezet eo ar gudenn meur a wech ? Bewech ? Cheñch-dicheñch ?
- If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
