#25677: "For a nil bid, the partner's books are not added to team bid."
Petra a zo c'hoarvezet ? Trugarez evit dibab amañ dindan
Petra a zo c'hoarvezet ? Trugarez evit dibab amañ dindan
Gwiriit mar-plij ma n'eus ket dija un danevell evit an hevelep dodenn
M'oc'h a-du, VOTIT evit an danevell-mañ. An danevelloù gant ar muiañ a vouezhioù a vo studiet DA GENTAÑ !
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Deskrivadur dre ar munud
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit ar gemennadenn fazi a zo war ho skramm, ma zo unan.
In this hand, one partner bid a nil. The other partner bid 6 books. The team made 8 books. Instead of crediting the team for the 6 books and losing the nil, they lost the nil, didn't make the bid, and also got 5 sand bags. So every book the partner who bid the nil received was counted towards the team's sand bags, but did not count towards the team's books. That is incorrect, and incredibly punitive. I hope that this was just an oversight.
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• Displegit deomp, mar-plij, ar pezh ho poa c'hoant d'ober, ar pezh ho peus graet hag ar pezh a zo c'hoarvezet 'benn ar fin
Move #417
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v85
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
In this hand, one partner bid a nil. The other partner bid 6 books. The team made 8 books. Instead of crediting the team for the 6 books and losing the nil, they lost the nil, didn't make the bid, and also got 5 sand bags. So every book the partner who bid the nil received was counted towards the team's sand bags, but did not count towards the team's books. That is incorrect, and incredibly punitive. I hope that this was just an oversight.
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• Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
Move #417
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v85
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• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
In this hand, one partner bid a nil. The other partner bid 6 books. The team made 8 books. Instead of crediting the team for the 6 books and losing the nil, they lost the nil, didn't make the bid, and also got 5 sand bags. So every book the partner who bid the nil received was counted towards the team's sand bags, but did not count towards the team's books. That is incorrect, and incredibly punitive. I hope that this was just an oversight.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v85
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• Petra oa diskouezet war ar skramm pa 'z oc'h chomet stanket (Skramm goullo ? Ul lodenn eus etrefas ar c'hoari ? Kemennadenn fazi ?)
In this hand, one partner bid a nil. The other partner bid 6 books. The team made 8 books. Instead of crediting the team for the 6 books and losing the nil, they lost the nil, didn't make the bid, and also got 5 sand bags. So every book the partner who bid the nil received was counted towards the team's sand bags, but did not count towards the team's books. That is incorrect, and incredibly punitive. I hope that this was just an oversight.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v85
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• Pesseurt reolenn n'eo ket doujet gant azasadenn ar c'hoari-mañ ?
In this hand, one partner bid a nil. The other partner bid 6 books. The team made 8 books. Instead of crediting the team for the 6 books and losing the nil, they lost the nil, didn't make the bid, and also got 5 sand bags. So every book the partner who bid the nil received was counted towards the team's sand bags, but did not count towards the team's books. That is incorrect, and incredibly punitive. I hope that this was just an oversight.
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• Ha posupl eo gwelet torridigezh ar reolenn e replay ar bartienn ? Ma 'z eo ya, da be niverenn taol ?
Move #417
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v85
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• Peseurt taol ho peus c'hoant c'hoari ?
In this hand, one partner bid a nil. The other partner bid 6 books. The team made 8 books. Instead of crediting the team for the 6 books and losing the nil, they lost the nil, didn't make the bid, and also got 5 sand bags. So every book the partner who bid the nil received was counted towards the team's sand bags, but did not count towards the team's books. That is incorrect, and incredibly punitive. I hope that this was just an oversight.
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• Petra emaoc'h o klask ober evit delankañ an ober c'hoari-mañ ?
Move #417
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• What happened when you try to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v85
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• Da be bazenn ar bartienn eo en em gavet ar gudenn (petra oa testenn kemenn ar c'hoari) ?
In this hand, one partner bid a nil. The other partner bid 6 books. The team made 8 books. Instead of crediting the team for the 6 books and losing the nil, they lost the nil, didn't make the bid, and also got 5 sand bags. So every book the partner who bid the nil received was counted towards the team's sand bags, but did not count towards the team's books. That is incorrect, and incredibly punitive. I hope that this was just an oversight.
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• What happened when you try to do a game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
Move #417
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v85
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• Mar-plij, diskrivit kudenn an diskwel. M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
In this hand, one partner bid a nil. The other partner bid 6 books. The team made 8 books. Instead of crediting the team for the 6 books and losing the nil, they lost the nil, didn't make the bid, and also got 5 sand bags. So every book the partner who bid the nil received was counted towards the team's sand bags, but did not count towards the team's books. That is incorrect, and incredibly punitive. I hope that this was just an oversight.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v85
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
In this hand, one partner bid a nil. The other partner bid 6 books. The team made 8 books. Instead of crediting the team for the 6 books and losing the nil, they lost the nil, didn't make the bid, and also got 5 sand bags. So every book the partner who bid the nil received was counted towards the team's sand bags, but did not count towards the team's books. That is incorrect, and incredibly punitive. I hope that this was just an oversight.
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• Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
Move #417
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v85
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• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
In this hand, one partner bid a nil. The other partner bid 6 books. The team made 8 books. Instead of crediting the team for the 6 books and losing the nil, they lost the nil, didn't make the bid, and also got 5 sand bags. So every book the partner who bid the nil received was counted towards the team's sand bags, but did not count towards the team's books. That is incorrect, and incredibly punitive. I hope that this was just an oversight.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v85
Roll-istor an danevelloù bog
"The usual rule is that when a nil fails, the tricks won by the nil bidder do not count towards making the partner's bid, but do count as bags for the team."
I get that it's the usual rule, but it does seem to be pretty punitive
Further, if they DID, and if the non-zero partner also got MORE than they bid, then logically the zero player's tricks should ALSO count as bags within their partner's score. You can't have your cake AND eat it !
The tricks of the Partner do not count for the nil-bid and the tricks of the nil-player do not count for his partner.
Example:
Player 1 -> Bid 0 / Got 2 Tricks --> -100 for Nil-bid / 2 Bags (took more tricks than he/she bid)
Player 2 -> Bid 4 Got 5 Tricks --> 40 for Bid / 1 Bag (took more than bid)
Team --> - 60 Points / 3 Bags
This seems logical to me
I don't have any official ruling reference, but just wanted to address that the reasoning (initially reported as a bug) is not uncommon.
Ouzhpennañ un dra bennak d'an danevell-mañ
- Niverenn taol all / Niverenn ar fiñv
- Ha renket eo bet ar gudenn gant an douchenn F5 ?
- Ha c'hoarvezet eo ar gudenn meur a wech ? Bewech ? Cheñch-dicheñch ?
- M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
