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#18293: "Perfect score and 0 point for all players"

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29. May 2020 07:01 • AA18 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Points computation at the end of the game

22. Jun 2020 08:32 • Ordoniez • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Yes, ELO system, it's a bit tricky when cooperative games, victory counts as "TIE" not as victory, in my table, both won 26/30 and ELO was substracted EVEN WE WON!

ELO System should be improved for coop games.

22. Jun 2020 08:33 • Ordoniez • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Table where 26/30 Substracted ELO

/table?table=97079534

28. Oct 2020 12:20 • IvanHC • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Happened also in game 120013479

6. Nov 2020 12:54 • 01oigres • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Same for me in table 121942501

8. Nov 2020 09:11 • Khoo1 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

According to Hanabi maker, you scored 30 for a victory. According to BGA, you need to pay for a victory :D LOL None the less, I understand how players feel and voted for this to be .... thought over.

25. Nov 2020 21:04 • JoyShanti • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

game #125863429 ended with 23 points and our personal points stayedthe same.

11. Jan 2021 23:31 • hermine02_boardgame • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

game #138601527
We did the highest score 30/30 (black and avalanche) and no one got even a point.
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14. Feb 2021 16:08 • lll030lll • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

That happened in all my games with 5 multicolour cards!!

13. Mar 2021 14:01 • IvettCs • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

I wish there was more clarification about the ELOs. Since the interface changed and I started using black powder that I thought would be rewarding, my ELO scores went down by 200 in 4 weeks. I simply don't get how I get no marks for perfect games even with an unlucky deck with black powder, no flamboyant help and only 5 cards in the hand, but I get 8 points deducted when we lose 1 card.

11. Jun 2021 22:50 • Mimer • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

This happened today, as mentioned before, in a game with 5 multicolored cards. The problem might be when you play that variety.

14. Jun 2021 11:59 • spressi • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

This is not really a bug. Based on the average ELO across all players, a prediction is made how many points are likely to be scored. If ELOs are particularly high, this expectation may be 30 if only high-ELO players are present. After the game, your ELO is increased if you exceeded the expectation and decreased if you fell short of that prediction.
To increase transparency in cooperative games, the expected end score based on the average ELO across players should be viewed before starting the game.

21. Sep 2021 17:09 • RICO90 • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

It happened in all games with 5 multicolour cards for more than a year.

19. Nov 2021 15:32 • arisanana • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

30/30 pts, tricky colors + black powder + flamboyants
ELO differing by about 400 pts (500+ and 900+)

End score +0

boardgamearena.com/8/hanabi?table=217721068

If the only thing that matters isn't the score difference but average score altogether, I would highly suggest changing that so odd matchings with reasonable level difference even at higher levels can still earn points—just playing a round or two of being a Strong or Expert player who slipped into a Master room is enough to see Master players can have very very different expectations of what "norm" is in "conventions".

28. Dec 2021 02:52 • arisanana • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Had another run of the same issue in the following table:

> boardgamearena.com/6/hanabi?table=227210831
> 30/30 pts, tricky/black/flams
> ELO differing by about 400 pts (904 and 495)
> ELO rate +0

After playing at more types of tables now, I think this may have to do with specifically the combination of:

> Tricky Color + Black Powder + 5 Flamboyants AND either:
>> ELO rate differs by ~400 pts OR
>> ELO of one player is around 500 while the other is around 900
> WITH the given that this is a 2 player table only

28. Dec 2021 05:34 • arisanana • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

boardgamearena.com/6/hanabi?table=227237274

Update: same as above

Score: 30/30
ELO: 892 + 467
Average ELO: 679

13. Jan 2022 23:02 • iakona • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

Since black powder doesnt change your end score, pretty sure you gain less elo by using it. E.g. a 30/30 with and without black powder will probably score the same.

17. Apr 2023 11:31 • Sombracier • N'eo ket bet eiladet c'hoazh ar bog gant an diorroerien:

The bug still occur with any "only 5 multicolours cards" mod (+ black powder in my case).

Example of the last concerned game : boardgamearena.com/table?table=367933090

13. Oct 2024 23:56 • Blacktango • Titouroù ouzhpenn a zo goulennet gant an diorroerien a-benn gellout eiladiñ ar bog-mañ:

5 multicolor cards does not give ELO because it is too difficult to balance compared to other modes (because it is very draw dependent). I guess it could at least be mentioned when you choose this mode.

Maybe the ELO balance could be improved with black powder.

ELO calculation is debated in this forum thread: boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4814

21. Jul 2025 23:17 • Blacktango • Titouroù ouzhpenn a zo goulennet gant an diorroerien a-benn gellout eiladiñ ar bog-mañ:

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"30/30 score and 0 point for all players"
changed to
"Perfect score and 0 point for all players"

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#18293: "Perfect score and 0 point for all players"

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