#167493: "Making a wheel middle and KK+ up top should count as more than just a single fantasy land. "
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Deskrivadur dre ar munud
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit ar gemennadenn fazi a zo war ho skramm, ma zo unan.
Greetings,
1) If I have a wheel in the middle, I enter fantasy land. There should be an additional reward for making KK+ up top, since that involves risk, including fouling the entire hand and losing the safe 8 points and fantasy land for the wheel.
Giving no extra reward is not in accordance with any written rules I have ever seen nor any other app or website. I have played well over 100,000 hands of this game on numerous platforms. I am wondering which ruleset is being used to have determined that KK+ top and wheel middle gives the same result as just KK or just the wheel.
2) I also cannot find support for 8 points for a middle wheel. My understanding of the rules is that a middle wheel is 4 points plus fantasy land (And when in FL, is just 4 points). 8 points is not balanced, and it's too east to just play for a wheel every hand and get 8 points and fantasyland with minimal foul risk. The purpose of fantasyland requirements is risk versus reward. Trying to make AA or KK top carries foul risk, hence the reward. Trying to make a wheel middle carries far less risk, hence the usual 4 points plus fantasy land. Less risk means less reward.
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• Displegit deomp, mar-plij, ar pezh ho poa c'hoant d'ober, ar pezh ho peus graet hag ar pezh a zo c'hoarvezet 'benn ar fin
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
irrelevant
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
Greetings,
1) If I have a wheel in the middle, I enter fantasy land. There should be an additional reward for making KK+ up top, since that involves risk, including fouling the entire hand and losing the safe 8 points and fantasy land for the wheel.
Giving no extra reward is not in accordance with any written rules I have ever seen nor any other app or website. I have played well over 100,000 hands of this game on numerous platforms. I am wondering which ruleset is being used to have determined that KK+ top and wheel middle gives the same result as just KK or just the wheel.
2) I also cannot find support for 8 points for a middle wheel. My understanding of the rules is that a middle wheel is 4 points plus fantasy land (And when in FL, is just 4 points). 8 points is not balanced, and it's too east to just play for a wheel every hand and get 8 points and fantasyland with minimal foul risk. The purpose of fantasyland requirements is risk versus reward. Trying to make AA or KK top carries foul risk, hence the reward. Trying to make a wheel middle carries far less risk, hence the usual 4 points plus fantasy land. Less risk means less reward.
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• Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
irrelevant
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• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
Greetings,
1) If I have a wheel in the middle, I enter fantasy land. There should be an additional reward for making KK+ up top, since that involves risk, including fouling the entire hand and losing the safe 8 points and fantasy land for the wheel.
Giving no extra reward is not in accordance with any written rules I have ever seen nor any other app or website. I have played well over 100,000 hands of this game on numerous platforms. I am wondering which ruleset is being used to have determined that KK+ top and wheel middle gives the same result as just KK or just the wheel.
2) I also cannot find support for 8 points for a middle wheel. My understanding of the rules is that a middle wheel is 4 points plus fantasy land (And when in FL, is just 4 points). 8 points is not balanced, and it's too east to just play for a wheel every hand and get 8 points and fantasyland with minimal foul risk. The purpose of fantasyland requirements is risk versus reward. Trying to make AA or KK top carries foul risk, hence the reward. Trying to make a wheel middle carries far less risk, hence the usual 4 points plus fantasy land. Less risk means less reward.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
irrelevant
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• Petra oa diskouezet war ar skramm pa 'z oc'h chomet stanket (Skramm goullo ? Ul lodenn eus etrefas ar c'hoari ? Kemennadenn fazi ?)
Greetings,
1) If I have a wheel in the middle, I enter fantasy land. There should be an additional reward for making KK+ up top, since that involves risk, including fouling the entire hand and losing the safe 8 points and fantasy land for the wheel.
Giving no extra reward is not in accordance with any written rules I have ever seen nor any other app or website. I have played well over 100,000 hands of this game on numerous platforms. I am wondering which ruleset is being used to have determined that KK+ top and wheel middle gives the same result as just KK or just the wheel.
2) I also cannot find support for 8 points for a middle wheel. My understanding of the rules is that a middle wheel is 4 points plus fantasy land (And when in FL, is just 4 points). 8 points is not balanced, and it's too east to just play for a wheel every hand and get 8 points and fantasyland with minimal foul risk. The purpose of fantasyland requirements is risk versus reward. Trying to make AA or KK top carries foul risk, hence the reward. Trying to make a wheel middle carries far less risk, hence the usual 4 points plus fantasy land. Less risk means less reward.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
irrelevant
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• Pesseurt reolenn n'eo ket doujet gant azasadenn ar c'hoari-mañ ?
Greetings,
1) If I have a wheel in the middle, I enter fantasy land. There should be an additional reward for making KK+ up top, since that involves risk, including fouling the entire hand and losing the safe 8 points and fantasy land for the wheel.
Giving no extra reward is not in accordance with any written rules I have ever seen nor any other app or website. I have played well over 100,000 hands of this game on numerous platforms. I am wondering which ruleset is being used to have determined that KK+ top and wheel middle gives the same result as just KK or just the wheel.
2) I also cannot find support for 8 points for a middle wheel. My understanding of the rules is that a middle wheel is 4 points plus fantasy land (And when in FL, is just 4 points). 8 points is not balanced, and it's too east to just play for a wheel every hand and get 8 points and fantasyland with minimal foul risk. The purpose of fantasyland requirements is risk versus reward. Trying to make AA or KK top carries foul risk, hence the reward. Trying to make a wheel middle carries far less risk, hence the usual 4 points plus fantasy land. Less risk means less reward.
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• Ha posupl eo gwelet torridigezh ar reolenn e replay ar bartienn ? Ma 'z eo ya, da be niverenn taol ?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
irrelevant
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• Peseurt taol ho peus c'hoant c'hoari ?
Greetings,
1) If I have a wheel in the middle, I enter fantasy land. There should be an additional reward for making KK+ up top, since that involves risk, including fouling the entire hand and losing the safe 8 points and fantasy land for the wheel.
Giving no extra reward is not in accordance with any written rules I have ever seen nor any other app or website. I have played well over 100,000 hands of this game on numerous platforms. I am wondering which ruleset is being used to have determined that KK+ top and wheel middle gives the same result as just KK or just the wheel.
2) I also cannot find support for 8 points for a middle wheel. My understanding of the rules is that a middle wheel is 4 points plus fantasy land (And when in FL, is just 4 points). 8 points is not balanced, and it's too east to just play for a wheel every hand and get 8 points and fantasyland with minimal foul risk. The purpose of fantasyland requirements is risk versus reward. Trying to make AA or KK top carries foul risk, hence the reward. Trying to make a wheel middle carries far less risk, hence the usual 4 points plus fantasy land. Less risk means less reward.
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• Petra emaoc'h o klask ober evit delankañ an ober c'hoari-mañ ?
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• What happened when you try to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
irrelevant
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• Da be bazenn ar bartienn eo en em gavet ar gudenn (petra oa testenn kemenn ar c'hoari) ?
Greetings,
1) If I have a wheel in the middle, I enter fantasy land. There should be an additional reward for making KK+ up top, since that involves risk, including fouling the entire hand and losing the safe 8 points and fantasy land for the wheel.
Giving no extra reward is not in accordance with any written rules I have ever seen nor any other app or website. I have played well over 100,000 hands of this game on numerous platforms. I am wondering which ruleset is being used to have determined that KK+ top and wheel middle gives the same result as just KK or just the wheel.
2) I also cannot find support for 8 points for a middle wheel. My understanding of the rules is that a middle wheel is 4 points plus fantasy land (And when in FL, is just 4 points). 8 points is not balanced, and it's too east to just play for a wheel every hand and get 8 points and fantasyland with minimal foul risk. The purpose of fantasyland requirements is risk versus reward. Trying to make AA or KK top carries foul risk, hence the reward. Trying to make a wheel middle carries far less risk, hence the usual 4 points plus fantasy land. Less risk means less reward.
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• What happened when you try to do a game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
irrelevant
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• Mar-plij, diskrivit kudenn an diskwel. M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
Greetings,
1) If I have a wheel in the middle, I enter fantasy land. There should be an additional reward for making KK+ up top, since that involves risk, including fouling the entire hand and losing the safe 8 points and fantasy land for the wheel.
Giving no extra reward is not in accordance with any written rules I have ever seen nor any other app or website. I have played well over 100,000 hands of this game on numerous platforms. I am wondering which ruleset is being used to have determined that KK+ top and wheel middle gives the same result as just KK or just the wheel.
2) I also cannot find support for 8 points for a middle wheel. My understanding of the rules is that a middle wheel is 4 points plus fantasy land (And when in FL, is just 4 points). 8 points is not balanced, and it's too east to just play for a wheel every hand and get 8 points and fantasyland with minimal foul risk. The purpose of fantasyland requirements is risk versus reward. Trying to make AA or KK top carries foul risk, hence the reward. Trying to make a wheel middle carries far less risk, hence the usual 4 points plus fantasy land. Less risk means less reward.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
irrelevant
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
Greetings,
1) If I have a wheel in the middle, I enter fantasy land. There should be an additional reward for making KK+ up top, since that involves risk, including fouling the entire hand and losing the safe 8 points and fantasy land for the wheel.
Giving no extra reward is not in accordance with any written rules I have ever seen nor any other app or website. I have played well over 100,000 hands of this game on numerous platforms. I am wondering which ruleset is being used to have determined that KK+ top and wheel middle gives the same result as just KK or just the wheel.
2) I also cannot find support for 8 points for a middle wheel. My understanding of the rules is that a middle wheel is 4 points plus fantasy land (And when in FL, is just 4 points). 8 points is not balanced, and it's too east to just play for a wheel every hand and get 8 points and fantasyland with minimal foul risk. The purpose of fantasyland requirements is risk versus reward. Trying to make AA or KK top carries foul risk, hence the reward. Trying to make a wheel middle carries far less risk, hence the usual 4 points plus fantasy land. Less risk means less reward.
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• Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
irrelevant
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• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
Greetings,
1) If I have a wheel in the middle, I enter fantasy land. There should be an additional reward for making KK+ up top, since that involves risk, including fouling the entire hand and losing the safe 8 points and fantasy land for the wheel.
Giving no extra reward is not in accordance with any written rules I have ever seen nor any other app or website. I have played well over 100,000 hands of this game on numerous platforms. I am wondering which ruleset is being used to have determined that KK+ top and wheel middle gives the same result as just KK or just the wheel.
2) I also cannot find support for 8 points for a middle wheel. My understanding of the rules is that a middle wheel is 4 points plus fantasy land (And when in FL, is just 4 points). 8 points is not balanced, and it's too east to just play for a wheel every hand and get 8 points and fantasyland with minimal foul risk. The purpose of fantasyland requirements is risk versus reward. Trying to make AA or KK top carries foul risk, hence the reward. Trying to make a wheel middle carries far less risk, hence the usual 4 points plus fantasy land. Less risk means less reward.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
irrelevant
Roll-istor an danevelloù bog
Simply 'I think this is overpowered' or 'another site/app doesn't work like this' is not good enough. It should be a major consensus.
FYI, I implemented the top search results:
www.pokernews.com/poker-rules/2-7-open-face-chinese-poker.htm
swcpoker.club/poker-rules/chinese-poker/2-7-pineapple-ofc
Also, Progressive Lowball awards 1 more Fantasyland card for making both KK+ and wheel.
I strongly believe that a wheel should be worth 4, not 8, but you did provide 2 good sources, which I appreciate. I'll see what I can find by searching; I assume I would need at least 2 good sources saying a wheel middle is worth 4, and as you said, some consensus from the players.
I'll write a forum post in the OFCP forum and see what the other players think.
Thanks :)
This makes zero sense, but it's the internet consensus. It's 4 points on PlayPineapple, which I think is the most popular OFCP app, but that seems to be the exception.
If the consensus changes for some reason (e.g. an 'official' organization with considerable authority appears and establishes '4 points for wheel' rule as their standard), please post a new report and I'll consider it.
My apologies for creating extra work.
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- Niverenn taol all / Niverenn ar fiñv
- Ha renket eo bet ar gudenn gant an douchenn F5 ?
- Ha c'hoarvezet eo ar gudenn meur a wech ? Bewech ? Cheñch-dicheñch ?
- M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
