#167071: "Colonoies: Order of operations wrong when trading on Pluto."
Petra a zo c'hoarvezet ? Trugarez evit dibab amañ dindan
Petra a zo c'hoarvezet ? Trugarez evit dibab amañ dindan
Gwiriit mar-plij ma n'eus ket dija un danevell evit an hevelep dodenn
M'oc'h a-du, VOTIT evit an danevell-mañ. An danevelloù gant ar muiañ a vouezhioù a vo studiet DA GENTAÑ !
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Deskrivadur dre ar munud
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit ar gemennadenn fazi a zo war ho skramm, ma zo unan.
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• Displegit deomp, mar-plij, ar pezh ho poa c'hoant d'ober, ar pezh ho peus graet hag ar pezh a zo c'hoarvezet 'benn ar fin
413
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
413
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• Petra oa diskouezet war ar skramm pa 'z oc'h chomet stanket (Skramm goullo ? Ul lodenn eus etrefas ar c'hoari ? Kemennadenn fazi ?)
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• Pesseurt reolenn n'eo ket doujet gant azasadenn ar c'hoari-mañ ?
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• Ha posupl eo gwelet torridigezh ar reolenn e replay ar bartienn ? Ma 'z eo ya, da be niverenn taol ?
413
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• Peseurt taol ho peus c'hoant c'hoari ?
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• Petra emaoc'h o klask ober evit delankañ an ober c'hoari-mañ ?
413
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• What happened when you try to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• Da be bazenn ar bartienn eo en em gavet ar gudenn (petra oa testenn kemenn ar c'hoari) ?
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• What happened when you try to do a game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
413
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• Mar-plij, diskrivit kudenn an diskwel. M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. -
• Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
413
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
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• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
When a player trades at Pluto, gets an option to draw cards from pluto (trading bonus) and to draw and discard a card (colony bonus) for themselves and other players. Rule is that active player chooses an order of operations. What happens here is that opponent gets to chose the order of operations which is against the rules! Non-active player cannot decide anything.
Even if the active players clicks Whatever, then it must make automatic selection of order of operations and not that the opponent then can choose. • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Opera 118.0.5461.41
Roll-istor an danevelloù bog
Opponent first drew his trade bonus (move 412). Not sure if they clicked on that option or Whatever button.
screenshot: imgur.com/a/jTWHUUn
The same happened to me at table 663278761. Opponenent said he clicked on Draw cards (trade bonus) and after he drew them, the selection automatically jumped to me.
boardgamearena.com/table?table=663278761
Quite annoying TBH.
I.e. main player chose order of operation which also chooses when other player draw. But all discards of other plalyer are queue up at the end of that player action
Also I made colony bonus non optional (i.e. draw->discard is not optional you have to take it)
With 2 colonies on Pluto, I now get both of my draws before my discards. This is wrong. I must draw first, discard after, then draw again and discard after. I may not see the 2nd card before deciding what to discard. This makes multiple Pluto colonies even stronger.
Another thing, didn't experience pluto trading as active player yet, but as non-active yes, in two games and it is now very confusing. Basically you come to game where there is your turn. And you are asked to discard a card. You got a card automatically, but you are not really notified about that (except the log of course), so you might not notice a new card and wonder why you should just discard.
What is even worse, when you come to game where there is your turn, you automatically expect you are going to play a card. So we are getting into very dangerous situation, where people think they are playing a card, but in fact you are discarding it! I know it is written on the top what action you are doing, but since you didn't trigger it in any way (unlike Mars University), then it is very tricky and it will cause a lot of troubles, especially in turn based games.
For any player who received a new card during someone else's Pluto trade - a popup button that says, "you received a new card from Pluto. Confirm and then discard one card" that must actually be clicked before the discard can be selected?
Then I have to hit the button (no "skip" shenanigans as before) and then I draw and must immediately discard.
This removes all the problems.
Ouzhpennañ un dra bennak d'an danevell-mañ
- Niverenn taol all / Niverenn ar fiñv
- Ha renket eo bet ar gudenn gant an douchenn F5 ?
- Ha c'hoarvezet eo ar gudenn meur a wech ? Bewech ? Cheñch-dicheñch ?
- M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
