#165796: "Sky towers shouldn't be able to connect the New world with the great cloud."
Petra a zo c'hoarvezet ? Trugarez evit dibab amañ dindan
Petra a zo c'hoarvezet ? Trugarez evit dibab amañ dindan
Gwiriit mar-plij ma n'eus ket dija un danevell evit an hevelep dodenn
M'oc'h a-du, VOTIT evit an danevell-mañ. An danevelloù gant ar muiañ a vouezhioù a vo studiet DA GENTAÑ !
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Deskrivadur dre ar munud
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit ar gemennadenn fazi a zo war ho skramm, ma zo unan.
In the original game rules of the new expansion to Bunny Kingdom it's written that only the Rainbow tokens can connect bunnies from the Great cloud to the New world. It seems that in the BGA adaptation of the game the sky towers can do that as well, which shouldn't happen according to the rules of the game.
Thanks for bringing the expansion to us, hope I can contribute to it's development! -
• Displegit deomp, mar-plij, ar pezh ho poa c'hoant d'ober, ar pezh ho peus graet hag ar pezh a zo c'hoarvezet 'benn ar fin
I suppose this is visible in this particular game when my opponent has used the sky tower tokens to connect his bunnies from the Great Cloud to the new world.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v135
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
In the original game rules of the new expansion to Bunny Kingdom it's written that only the Rainbow tokens can connect bunnies from the Great cloud to the New world. It seems that in the BGA adaptation of the game the sky towers can do that as well, which shouldn't happen according to the rules of the game.
Thanks for bringing the expansion to us, hope I can contribute to it's development! -
• Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
I suppose this is visible in this particular game when my opponent has used the sky tower tokens to connect his bunnies from the Great Cloud to the new world.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v135
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• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
In the original game rules of the new expansion to Bunny Kingdom it's written that only the Rainbow tokens can connect bunnies from the Great cloud to the New world. It seems that in the BGA adaptation of the game the sky towers can do that as well, which shouldn't happen according to the rules of the game.
Thanks for bringing the expansion to us, hope I can contribute to it's development! • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v135
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• Petra oa diskouezet war ar skramm pa 'z oc'h chomet stanket (Skramm goullo ? Ul lodenn eus etrefas ar c'hoari ? Kemennadenn fazi ?)
In the original game rules of the new expansion to Bunny Kingdom it's written that only the Rainbow tokens can connect bunnies from the Great cloud to the New world. It seems that in the BGA adaptation of the game the sky towers can do that as well, which shouldn't happen according to the rules of the game.
Thanks for bringing the expansion to us, hope I can contribute to it's development! • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v135
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• Pesseurt reolenn n'eo ket doujet gant azasadenn ar c'hoari-mañ ?
In the original game rules of the new expansion to Bunny Kingdom it's written that only the Rainbow tokens can connect bunnies from the Great cloud to the New world. It seems that in the BGA adaptation of the game the sky towers can do that as well, which shouldn't happen according to the rules of the game.
Thanks for bringing the expansion to us, hope I can contribute to it's development! -
• Ha posupl eo gwelet torridigezh ar reolenn e replay ar bartienn ? Ma 'z eo ya, da be niverenn taol ?
I suppose this is visible in this particular game when my opponent has used the sky tower tokens to connect his bunnies from the Great Cloud to the new world.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v135
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• Peseurt taol ho peus c'hoant c'hoari ?
In the original game rules of the new expansion to Bunny Kingdom it's written that only the Rainbow tokens can connect bunnies from the Great cloud to the New world. It seems that in the BGA adaptation of the game the sky towers can do that as well, which shouldn't happen according to the rules of the game.
Thanks for bringing the expansion to us, hope I can contribute to it's development! -
• Petra emaoc'h o klask ober evit delankañ an ober c'hoari-mañ ?
I suppose this is visible in this particular game when my opponent has used the sky tower tokens to connect his bunnies from the Great Cloud to the new world.
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• What happened when you try to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v135
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• Da be bazenn ar bartienn eo en em gavet ar gudenn (petra oa testenn kemenn ar c'hoari) ?
In the original game rules of the new expansion to Bunny Kingdom it's written that only the Rainbow tokens can connect bunnies from the Great cloud to the New world. It seems that in the BGA adaptation of the game the sky towers can do that as well, which shouldn't happen according to the rules of the game.
Thanks for bringing the expansion to us, hope I can contribute to it's development! -
• What happened when you try to do a game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
I suppose this is visible in this particular game when my opponent has used the sky tower tokens to connect his bunnies from the Great Cloud to the new world.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v135
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• Mar-plij, diskrivit kudenn an diskwel. M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
In the original game rules of the new expansion to Bunny Kingdom it's written that only the Rainbow tokens can connect bunnies from the Great cloud to the New world. It seems that in the BGA adaptation of the game the sky towers can do that as well, which shouldn't happen according to the rules of the game.
Thanks for bringing the expansion to us, hope I can contribute to it's development! • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v135
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
In the original game rules of the new expansion to Bunny Kingdom it's written that only the Rainbow tokens can connect bunnies from the Great cloud to the New world. It seems that in the BGA adaptation of the game the sky towers can do that as well, which shouldn't happen according to the rules of the game.
Thanks for bringing the expansion to us, hope I can contribute to it's development! -
• Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
I suppose this is visible in this particular game when my opponent has used the sky tower tokens to connect his bunnies from the Great Cloud to the new world.
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v135
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• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
In the original game rules of the new expansion to Bunny Kingdom it's written that only the Rainbow tokens can connect bunnies from the Great cloud to the New world. It seems that in the BGA adaptation of the game the sky towers can do that as well, which shouldn't happen according to the rules of the game.
Thanks for bringing the expansion to us, hope I can contribute to it's development! • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v135
Roll-istor an danevelloù bog
Thanks for your report!
I'm not familiar with any rule in the IN THE SKY manual which prohibits Sky Towers from connecting the Great Cloud and the New World. There's no placement rule which forbids Sky Towers being placed in the Great Cloud. The rules say "you can place your Buildings on either the Great Cloud board or the New World board - subject to meeting the Building Requirements" and there are no Building Requirements against Sky Towers being placed in the Great Cloud.
The only specific mention of Sky Towers in the IN THE SKY rules is in reference to the Rainbow tokens: "Each pair of tokens connects two of your Territories to difference Fiefs, as if they were adjacent (in the same way as the Sky Towers in the base game)". So here the Sky Towers are used as a quick way of explaining how the Rainbow tokens work but (in case there is a misunderstanding) the "in the base game" is not implying a new limitation on the Sky Towers. If that were the intent, not only with the limitation have been made explicitly but the wording would have referred to "on the New World board" and not "in the base game".
The Rainbows rules section DOES specify at one point that "it can only be placed on the New World board" but that is referring to the second Rainbow token (the Rainbow MUST connect the fixed Great Cloud territory with a territory on the New World board) and is not referring to Sky Towers at all (if it was, then the following rule about being able to move it during each Construction phase would also apply to Sky Towers, which I'm sure you'd agree, it doesn't!)
If you believe that I have missed something then I'd be very keen to hear the specific rule that you're referring to, but I believe this is most likely a rule misunderstanding. Sky Towers are important to the expansion as the design of In The Sky is all about the importance of connecting all of the rich Fiefs in the Great Cloud to the New World. If Sky Towers were prevented from doing that, it would heavily limit the usefulness of the additional board!
Cheers,
BARONFRASER
The full thread is at boardgamegeek.com/thread/2689192/doubt-about-sky-towers-in-expansion but specifically from Richard:
"The intent was that you should be able to use sky towers on the sky board, as if it were the main board."
I do acknowledge that this quote doesn't explicitly refer to joining Territories from both boards, but he is answering a question that explicitly DOES raise that question and his response expresses no issue with it.
Cheers,
BARONFRASER
I also prefer not allowing placing the towers across the maps because the current rules can make the rainbow tokens useless, since they provide less mobility.
Thanks for the suggestion, but you'd need to make a very strong case for spending development time on implementing a house rule that - at face value - appears to break the game. The Great Cloud is heavily gimped if you can't connect it to the New World board. I'm not sure what the advantage is for removing from the game 3/5 of the opportunities to make that connection.
Particularly in 3+ player games it would lock all but 2 players out from the points to be made from combining the high wealth opportunity that the Great Cloud offers with the high City Towers opportunity that can only be achieved on the New World.
Cheers,
BARONFRASER
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- M'ho peus un dapadenn skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
