#125389: "Prelude Corp options"
Petra a zo c'hoarvezet ? Trugarez evit dibab amañ dindan
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Deskrivadur dre ar munud
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit ar gemennadenn fazi a zo war ho skramm, ma zo unan.
The prelude rules allow for the new corporations to be added to the deck or a variant where 1 corp is from prelude and the other is not. I would like to propose a third option which is no prelude corporations.
The Steam implementation allows for all three of these options and many players prefer playing with no prelude corporations, but with preludes. This is mainly due to the large power creep of corporations in the prelude expansion compared to the base game. Having this option will increase the skill ceiling and will help encourage players from Steam to play on BGA as well. -
• Displegit deomp, mar-plij, ar pezh ho poa c'hoant d'ober, ar pezh ho peus graet hag ar pezh a zo c'hoarvezet 'benn ar fin
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v125
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
The prelude rules allow for the new corporations to be added to the deck or a variant where 1 corp is from prelude and the other is not. I would like to propose a third option which is no prelude corporations.
The Steam implementation allows for all three of these options and many players prefer playing with no prelude corporations, but with preludes. This is mainly due to the large power creep of corporations in the prelude expansion compared to the base game. Having this option will increase the skill ceiling and will help encourage players from Steam to play on BGA as well. • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v125
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• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
The prelude rules allow for the new corporations to be added to the deck or a variant where 1 corp is from prelude and the other is not. I would like to propose a third option which is no prelude corporations.
The Steam implementation allows for all three of these options and many players prefer playing with no prelude corporations, but with preludes. This is mainly due to the large power creep of corporations in the prelude expansion compared to the base game. Having this option will increase the skill ceiling and will help encourage players from Steam to play on BGA as well. • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v125
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• Petra oa diskouezet war ar skramm pa 'z oc'h chomet stanket (Skramm goullo ? Ul lodenn eus etrefas ar c'hoari ? Kemennadenn fazi ?)
The prelude rules allow for the new corporations to be added to the deck or a variant where 1 corp is from prelude and the other is not. I would like to propose a third option which is no prelude corporations.
The Steam implementation allows for all three of these options and many players prefer playing with no prelude corporations, but with preludes. This is mainly due to the large power creep of corporations in the prelude expansion compared to the base game. Having this option will increase the skill ceiling and will help encourage players from Steam to play on BGA as well. • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v125
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• Pesseurt reolenn n'eo ket doujet gant azasadenn ar c'hoari-mañ ?
The prelude rules allow for the new corporations to be added to the deck or a variant where 1 corp is from prelude and the other is not. I would like to propose a third option which is no prelude corporations.
The Steam implementation allows for all three of these options and many players prefer playing with no prelude corporations, but with preludes. This is mainly due to the large power creep of corporations in the prelude expansion compared to the base game. Having this option will increase the skill ceiling and will help encourage players from Steam to play on BGA as well. -
• Ha posupl eo gwelet torridigezh ar reolenn e replay ar bartienn ? Ma 'z eo ya, da be niverenn taol ?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v125
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• Peseurt taol ho peus c'hoant c'hoari ?
The prelude rules allow for the new corporations to be added to the deck or a variant where 1 corp is from prelude and the other is not. I would like to propose a third option which is no prelude corporations.
The Steam implementation allows for all three of these options and many players prefer playing with no prelude corporations, but with preludes. This is mainly due to the large power creep of corporations in the prelude expansion compared to the base game. Having this option will increase the skill ceiling and will help encourage players from Steam to play on BGA as well. -
• Petra emaoc'h o klask ober evit delankañ an ober c'hoari-mañ ?
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• What happened when you try to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v125
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• Da be bazenn ar bartienn eo en em gavet ar gudenn (petra oa testenn kemenn ar c'hoari) ?
The prelude rules allow for the new corporations to be added to the deck or a variant where 1 corp is from prelude and the other is not. I would like to propose a third option which is no prelude corporations.
The Steam implementation allows for all three of these options and many players prefer playing with no prelude corporations, but with preludes. This is mainly due to the large power creep of corporations in the prelude expansion compared to the base game. Having this option will increase the skill ceiling and will help encourage players from Steam to play on BGA as well. -
• What happened when you try to do a game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v125
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• Mar-plij, diskrivit kudenn an diskwel. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
The prelude rules allow for the new corporations to be added to the deck or a variant where 1 corp is from prelude and the other is not. I would like to propose a third option which is no prelude corporations.
The Steam implementation allows for all three of these options and many players prefer playing with no prelude corporations, but with preludes. This is mainly due to the large power creep of corporations in the prelude expansion compared to the base game. Having this option will increase the skill ceiling and will help encourage players from Steam to play on BGA as well. • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v125
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
The prelude rules allow for the new corporations to be added to the deck or a variant where 1 corp is from prelude and the other is not. I would like to propose a third option which is no prelude corporations.
The Steam implementation allows for all three of these options and many players prefer playing with no prelude corporations, but with preludes. This is mainly due to the large power creep of corporations in the prelude expansion compared to the base game. Having this option will increase the skill ceiling and will help encourage players from Steam to play on BGA as well. • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v125
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• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
The prelude rules allow for the new corporations to be added to the deck or a variant where 1 corp is from prelude and the other is not. I would like to propose a third option which is no prelude corporations.
The Steam implementation allows for all three of these options and many players prefer playing with no prelude corporations, but with preludes. This is mainly due to the large power creep of corporations in the prelude expansion compared to the base game. Having this option will increase the skill ceiling and will help encourage players from Steam to play on BGA as well. • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v125
Roll-istor an danevelloù bog
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We not trying to take away players from steam app - same company owns this app and bga ...
If it does really need approval again, how can we start the process of obtaining it?
Again, allowing this option will greatly increase the skill cap of the game, as it is one that almost all of the highest ranked players on steam use.
“ Variants: Deal each player 1 corporation from Prelude,
and 1 from the other corporations. If you want to play a
game without the Prelude cards, you may still keep the 7
project cards and the 5 corporations in the game.”
The above variant is referred to as “Highlight Draw” on the Steam application (it is clearly officially sanctioned and approved by Fryx). But this text also makes clear that you may play the Base Game with *or* without Prelude corps and cards.
The option already exists on the steam app (so has already been approved by Fryx). Of all the changes that could be made to Terraforming Mars on BGA, this really seems like the most important one for competitive players.
It is not a house rule. As Corvus Mortis said, this is not a house rule and is clearly stated as an option in the text of the rule book.
Whether or not this house rule has been sanctioned by Fryx Games for the Steam app is also not inferable from the fact that it is implemented in the Steam app, as neither you nor I know the contract between Asmodee Digital and Fryx. Plus, being another entity altogether, this house rule would need explicit approval for BGA nonetheless, even if they did approve it in the past for Steam.
Note that I'm just clarifying things. I'm not expressing an opinion whether or not this house rule should be implemented or not.
- Dealing one base corporation and one Prelude corporation to each player (known as "highlight draw")
- Playing with Prelude corporations and project cards but without the actual preludes.
The way the rulebook phrases this, it seems clear that these are merely suggestions of variants, and that the game encourages you to mix and match between corporations, preludes and project cards.
And indeed, FryxGames officially sanctioned the variant suggested in this issue for the Steam app.
Furthermore, this is a highly popular variant among competitive players that would strengthen the player base further and bring even more players over to BGA.
That makes it worthy of discussion, at least. I will review my physical copy of the prelude rulebook and discuss this with the developer.
I'm thinking the best option would allow for playing with prelude cards and the 7 (?) extra project cards but not the prelude corporations.
I'm not a big fan of the variant where each player gets 1 prelude corp and one non-prelude corp. That's still annoying for whoever doesn't get Vitor or Point Luna.
And, again, as a reminder to all who voted in this thread and participated in this discussion, I can't promise anything.
Corporations
And default value is go with whatever in selected expansions
And second option Base Game Only (base + corporate era)
Is this good enough?
(Later it can be expanded to support more "official" variants such as 1 from base and one from expansion for example)
Ouzhpennañ un dra bennak d'an danevell-mañ
- Niverenn taol all / Niverenn ar fiñv
- Ha renket eo bet ar gudenn gant an douchenn F5 ?
- Ha c'hoarvezet eo ar gudenn meur a wech ? Bewech ? Cheñch-dicheñch ?
- If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
