#12256: "ELO calculation: Joint placements results. "
Petra a zo c'hoarvezet ? Trugarez evit dibab amañ dindan
Petra a zo c'hoarvezet ? Trugarez evit dibab amañ dindan
Gwiriit mar-plij ma n'eus ket dija un danevell evit an hevelep dodenn
M'oc'h a-du, VOTIT evit an danevell-mañ. An danevelloù gant ar muiañ a vouezhioù a vo studiet DA GENTAÑ !
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Deskrivadur dre ar munud
• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit ar gemennadenn fazi a zo war ho skramm, ma zo unan.
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Displegit deomp, mar-plij, ar pezh ho poa c'hoant d'ober, ar pezh ho peus graet hag ar pezh a zo c'hoarvezet 'benn ar fin
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v73
• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. M'ho peus ul lennad skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v73
• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v73
• What was displayed on the screen when you were blocked (Blank screen? Part of the game interface? Error message?)
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v73
• Which part of the rules was not respected by the BGA adaptation
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Ha posupl eo gwelet torridigezh ar reolenn e replay ar bartienn ? Ma 'z eo ya, da be niverenn taol ?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v73
• Peseurt taol ho peus c'hoant c'hoari ?
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Petra emaoc'h o klask ober evit delankañ an ober c'hoari-mañ ?
• What happened when you try to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v73
• Da be bazenn ar bartienn eo en em gavet ar gudenn (petra oa testenn kemenn ar c'hoari) ?
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• What happened when you try to do a game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v73
• Mar-plij, diskrivit kudenn an diskwel. M'ho peus ul lennad skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v73
• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. M'ho peus ul lennad skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v73
• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
For games like Lewis & Clark and Not Alone where joint placements are common. ELO calculation can take away ELO from a winning players, or ELO points can be awarded to a losing player.• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v73
Roll-istor an danevelloù bog
the same is true for Lewis & Clark where every loser comes joint 2nd.
Basically, independent of the game outcome, you have a tie with all players in human team, and your score will be adjusted on a value based on ELO difference.
If you have players with higher ELO (and probability of victory is higher) you get a boost to your ELO, if you have players with lower ELO (and probability of victory is lower) you get a drop of your ELO.
This is totally weird.
imgur.com/Nj1pldz
The bug is that some ELO calculations occur in the absence of any competition between players. It occurs mainly in 2 typical cases :
1) games ending normally, but for games with only one winner, all other players being losers. If the losers cannot be ranked, due to lack of score, you cannot pretend there were competitions between losers, and that these players finished in a tie. Only ELO calculations between the winner and each loser are justified, the other ones are inappropriate.
2) games interrupted due to the departure of a player. It is in a way the opposite of the previous situation: the result is one loser, all other players are winners, and winners are not ranked, following the rules of this website. As in the previous case, only ELO calculations between the loser and each winner are justified, the other ones are inappropriate.
Hello everyone,
We finally found the good way to implement this.
It concerns only games where the winners win as a team, and losers lose as a team. These games are easy to spot: they are the one where the "1st / 2nd / 3rd" are replaced by "Winners / Losers" in the table results. Examples: Werewolves, Not alone, Coup city state.
For these games, you cannot win ELO if you are a "loser", and you cannot lose ELO if you are a "winner".
Thanks for suggesting this.
There is no reason I (RicardoRix) should gain ELO:
and also Savilov shouldn't be losing ELO to anyone other than Jai:
boardgamearena.com/table?table=60814597
Ouzhpennañ un dra bennak d'an danevell-mañ
- Niverenn taol all / Niverenn ar fiñv
- Ha renket eo bet ar gudenn gant an douchenn F5 ?
- Ha c'hoarvezet eo ar gudenn meur a wech ? Bewech ? Cheñch-dicheñch ?
- M'ho peus ul lennad skramm eus ar gudenn (ho pezit soñj d'eus se !), gellout a rit implij Imgur.com evit e bellgargañ hag eilañ/pegañ al liamm amañ.