#1181: "Blue Team lost against Green without the gate "
Petra a zo c'hoarvezet ? Trugarez evit dibab amañ dindan
Petra a zo c'hoarvezet ? Trugarez evit dibab amañ dindan
Gwiriit mar-plij ma n'eus ket dija un danevell evit an hevelep dodenn
M'oc'h a-du, VOTIT evit an danevell-mañ. An danevelloù gant ar muiañ a vouezhioù a vo studiet DA GENTAÑ !
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Deskrivadur dre ar munud
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit ar gemennadenn fazi a zo war ho skramm, ma zo unan.
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. -
• Displegit deomp, mar-plij, ar pezh ho poa c'hoant d'ober, ar pezh ho peus graet hag ar pezh a zo c'hoarvezet 'benn ar fin
#67
see the result of 1st round • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v35
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v35
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• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v35
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• Petra oa diskouezet war ar skramm pa 'z oc'h chomet stanket (Skramm goullo ? Ul lodenn eus etrefas ar c'hoari ? Kemennadenn fazi ?)
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v35
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• Pesseurt reolenn n'eo ket doujet gant azasadenn ar c'hoari-mañ ?
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. -
• Ha posupl eo gwelet torridigezh ar reolenn e replay ar bartienn ? Ma 'z eo ya, da be niverenn taol ?
#67
see the result of 1st round • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v35
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• Peseurt taol ho peus c'hoant c'hoari ?
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. -
• Petra emaoc'h o klask ober evit delankañ an ober c'hoari-mañ ?
#67
see the result of 1st round -
• What happened when you try to do this (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
• Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v35
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• Da be bazenn ar bartienn eo en em gavet ar gudenn (petra oa testenn kemenn ar c'hoari) ?
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. -
• What happened when you try to do a game action (error message, game status bar message, ...)?
#67
see the result of 1st round • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v35
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• Mar-plij, diskrivit kudenn an diskwel. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v35
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• Mar-plij, eilit/pegit an destenn e Saozneg ha n'eo ket en ho yezh. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Ha dibres eo an destenn-mañ er sistem treiñ? Ma ya, daoust ha troet eo bet ouzhpenn 24 eur 'zo ?
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v35
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• Displegit ho kinnig mar-plij, e berrgomzoù met en un doare resis, evit ma vefe an aesañ posupl kompren mat ar pezh ho peus c'hoant lâret.
There is some paths that can avoid the gates
but Green won the game and Blue earned nothing.
I think Blue must earn golds. • Peseurt merdeer eo hoc'h hini ?
Google Chrome v35
Roll-istor an danevelloù bog
According to the rules:
A team wins if:
- a dwarf from that team creates the connection to the treasure and the way there
isn‘t blocked by a door of the other color, or;
- a dwarf from the other team creates the connection to the treasure, but the way
there for his or her own team is blocked by a door of the wrong color.
Accordingly to the links given in the BGA Saboteur page (Expansion rules (Saboteur 2) : zmangames.com/rulebooks/Saboteur_2.pdf),
"Splitting the Treasure
Depending on whether there is an uninterrupted path from the start to the treasure or not, the
Gold-Diggers or the Saboteurs win the round. If the path to the treasure is blocked by a door,
only the dwarves from the team of the same color win."
There is no indication that only a colored team win if there is no door on the path.
If I'm wrong, could you give me a link with the rule giving the proper explanation about this behavior please ?
2fishki.ru/userfiles/saboteur_2.pdf
Just noticed this thread.
There is actually indication that only a colored team win if there is no door on the path.
Please see p.1 of sab 2 rules
New Dwarf and victory conditions (blue and green miners):
".......but they are IN COMPETITION"
"A teams win if one of their own dwarf finishes a path to the treasure."
The second statement would imply that blue opens gold, blue will win. As they are in competition, most likely this would also imply green would not get anything.
Hope this would help.
Hi Sergii,
BGA answered me already.
In fact, both of you are right. Your issue has revealed a translation error.
The programmers of BGA have followed the French rule version of the game. This rule, which I’ve checked long time ago, contains a badly translated sentence which is the cause of the wrong interpretation.
I will inform BGA of it and more importantly the French distributor.
I will keep you updated of any change applied by BGA.
Best regards,
Frederic
30 November 2016 at 10:25
So this was actually a bug, even though our reference rules said it wasn't ;)
It has been fixed today.
- Usually each team wins alone. Blue and green are competing for victory.
- Examples and exceptions:
* If a green digger creates a path to the treasure without any doors, the green team wins.
* If there is a blue door on the path, the blue team wins instead of the green team.
* If there is a blue door and a green door on the path, only the boss and profiteer win.
* If the boss, a saboteur, a geologist or the profiteer creates a path to the treasure without any doors, both teams win together.
The previous implementation did exactly that, so in fact it was correct. I reverted my change to get back to the proper implementation.
Hope things are clear now for everyone with the examples above :)
Have fun!
Ouzhpennañ un dra bennak d'an danevell-mañ
- Niverenn taol all / Niverenn ar fiñv
- Ha renket eo bet ar gudenn gant an douchenn F5 ?
- Ha c'hoarvezet eo ar gudenn meur a wech ? Bewech ? Cheñch-dicheñch ?
- If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
